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Jasmeet Walia
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Joined: Apr 06, 2005
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Hi All,

Could anyone please tell me the speciality of a VTECH engine?

I recently Test Drove a used Honda Civic Coupe, right on accelerating, the engine started making sound. I was been told by the Dealer that it has a VTECH engine and generally by default they are made to sound like that.

Could anyone please provide me an insight into this.

Appreciate your help.

Thanks
Jasmeet
Jayesh Lalwani
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Joined: Nov 05, 2004
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My experience is that Honda engines generally make more "revving" noises than other cars'. My first car is a Civic, and I did'nt notice it until I got into a rental. Actually, I enjoy the sound, because I can judge the speed and acceleration based on the sound. My second car is an Accord, which is definetly quieter than the Civic, although noisier than other cars in the same class

Also, is'nt Coupe their sports model? I always thought that engine noise was one of the "features" of sports cars. I'm not a car expert. It's just something I heard from other people. But, I think if you don't like the sound, then better stay away from Honda, espescially a sports model
[ April 06, 2005: Message edited by: Jayesh Lalwani ]
Warren Dew
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The VTEC (Variable Timing and lift Electronic Control) engines from Honda have variable valve timing - the cams use a different lobe at high engine RPM than at lower engine RPM. This allows the engines to operate effectively to a higher RPM than regular engines, and permits Honda to use smaller displacement engines than they would otherwise need for the car in question.

Because the VTEC engines tend to have a wider RPM band, the RPM at normal operation also tends to be higher. That means the exhaust sound will tend to be about half an octave higher, and seem louder, than some competing cars.

I've gotten used to it in my Honda. If you enjoy driving, a Honda may be a good choice - like BMWs, Hondas tend to be drivers' cars. Now if they'd only take into account cold weather issues like BMW does....
[ April 06, 2005: Message edited by: Warren Dew ]
peter wooster
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VTEC is the Honda trademark for Variable Valve Timing, a feature the Alfa Romeos have had for decades (my 82 spider had it). Its now common on many other brands, Toyota uses it on Camrys, so its not just sporty cars. What it does is it changes the exhaust valve timing to improve torque at low revs and let the engine breath better at high revs. This does have a small effect on the sound of the engine, but I would take any claim that it's the cause of any unreasonably loud engine noise with a large grain of salt, especially when coming from a salesman. My Alfa was LOUD, always, but that's what it's supposed to be, after all it's a flamboyant Italian. Most Hondas and Toyotas are very quiet by comparison, although I did find the Celica to be noisier than I would have expected from a Toyota.
Roger Johnson
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never own a honda before, own toyota and mazda once, this is what i am driving now

peter wooster
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Originally posted by Roger Johnson:
never own a honda before, own toyota and mazda once, this is what i am driving now



That must be lots of fun at highway speeds, it's good to see it has some mud on it.
Roger Johnson
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Originally posted by peter wooster:


That must be lots of fun at highway speeds, it's good to see it has some mud on it.


it is lots of fun at highway speed, top down or up. it is noisy, low gas mileage, but hey, it is the original fun in the sun.

i bought it brand new, and intend to keep it for a long time. i think you will get bored with just about any car/truck eventually, but this car in unique in my humble opinion.

i plan to do a body lift, install bigger wheel on it in the future.
peter wooster
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Originally posted by Roger Johnson:

it is lots of fun at highway speed, top down or up. it is noisy, low gas mileage, but hey, it is the original fun in the sun.

i bought it brand new, and intend to keep it for a long time. i think you will get bored with just about any car/truck eventually, but this car in unique in my humble opinion.

i plan to do a body lift, install bigger wheel on it in the future.


It's not actually the "original" fun in the sun. I drove something closer to that for many years (Alfa Spider), it was noisy on the highway, but got great mileage, and attracted more attention than you could possibly want. It rarely had mud on it. A friend of mine just bought a used TJ that he plans to use at his home in the country, he's keeping his diesel Jetta for the highway, quiet, comfortable and economical.

Enjoy your Jeep and be sure to keep it muddy.
Roger Johnson
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is there a picture by any chance?


Originally posted by peter wooster:


It's not actually the "original" fun in the sun. I drove something closer to that for many years (Alfa Spider), it was noisy on the highway, but got great mileage, and attracted more attention than you could possibly want. It rarely had mud on it. A friend of mine just bought a used TJ that he plans to use at his home in the country, he's keeping his diesel Jetta for the highway, quiet, comfortable and economical.

Enjoy your Jeep and be sure to keep it muddy.
Pat Davis
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show me the picture, before i show you my 2005 saleen s7 twin turbo, cost $555,000



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Roger Johnson
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regarding cars, the bottom line is, do not waste too much money. i bought two new car before: mazda miata, jeep wrangler. for a brand new car, in the first 1~2 years, the value typically depreciate by half.
Stan James
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Only the mud on the roof REALLY counts.


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