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which city would you rather live in?

Roger Johnson
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albany, new york
ann arbor, michigan
raleigh,north carolina
reno, nevada

career wise, quality of living wise, children wise, weather wise,....
Mark Spritzler
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Albany and An Arbor are way too cold in the winter to even consider.

I have been to both Raleigh and to Reno. Reno also gets cold, but is right next to Lake Tahoe, so great in summer and great skiing in winter, plus the casinoes in town.

Raleigh is a great city. I think really warm and humid in the summer, but the people are very very nice. It is a college town, but I loved it when I was there. I would probably choose here over the other cities, if it was my only choices.

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Roger Johnson
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Originally posted by Mark Spritzler:
Albany and An Arbor are way too cold in the winter to even consider.


now i know you are the weather man!

i have never been to raleigh and albany, but lived in places close to raleigh, i have also been to northeast a few times.

weather wise, i guess reno is the best;

career wise, generally, i guess ann arbor is the best;

chilren wise, i guess raleigh may be the best;

quality of living wise, i do not know, may be ann arbor again? (thinking about univ of michigan, close to detroit, close to great lakes, ...)
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John Smith
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Raleigh wins on all fronts.
Alan Wanwierd
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Hmmm....

Given that all of the above are in USA which means reduced holidays, reduced personal freedoms and higher crime rates - I think I'll stay where I am thanks! (previous opinion is deliberately exagerated and based on popular perception rather than any serious study - no offense intended!)

Perhaps the question should appeal to a wider audience, heres a few possible major cities that could stand comparison:

Vancouver - How COLD in winter???!!!

London - High cost of living (unaffordable real-estate), LOADS to do in terms of music, theatre etc etc...but easy access to huge variety of european destination for weekend getaways.. still crowded and dirty...

Barcelona - Relaxed attitude... pleasant weather, culturaly diverse and active...

Brisbane - year round sub-tropical sunshine, easy living, very low crime..but limited career oportunities, limited cultural outlets.

Cape Town - Low cost of living, high level of luxury, great weather - but potential for very high crime...

Singapore - Lots of career oportunties, very clean and tidy - but perhaps overly regulated society - real estate limited to apartment living, very crowded, too hot and sticky!...
Ashish Chopra
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In India,

i'd prefer belgaum, a small town in karnataka, full of greenery....
and only a 100 kms away from goa

second pref: chandigarh.....


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Damanjit Kaur
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chandigarh is no longer that much clean & beautiful as it used to be.
Now Panchkula is like, chandigarh used to be long time back.
Gerald Davis
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Originally posted by Adrian Wallace:

Perhaps the question should appeal to a wider audience, heres a few possible major cities that could stand comparison:



Could I add Perth Western Australia.
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Ashish,

Great to see a admirer of Belgaum. Buth things have changed with time over in Belgaum. It is no more greener nor does it have the climate of late 80�s or early 90�s anymore. Now the summers are hot and dry, summers have a temperature hovering around 40 deg centigrade.
Bangalore, any day, has a very pleasant climate.

Sandip
Pradeep bhatt
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Bangalore, any day, has a very pleasant climate.


..pollution, traffic jams, corrupt police...


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Jeroen Wenting
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Of those, Reno.
Excellent air races and the EAE events...

Plus near some stunning scenery to fullfil my photographic urges.


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soumya ravindranath
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Originally posted by Pradip Bhat:


..pollution, traffic jams, corrupt police...


Having stayed away from Bangalore for long, I would still say - Bangalore, any day!
Pradeep bhatt
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Originally posted by soumya ravindranath:


Having stayed away from Bangalore for long, I would still say - Bangalore, any day!


Banaglore is different from the one I saw 5 years back. It has been ruined now.
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Well, I visit every year and in comparison to the 'first world', I have learnt to appreciate what home feels like, inspite of all that seem to mar the effect This, of course, is a very personal view.
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
Could I add Perth Western Australia.


Home sweet home
Ashish Chopra
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Originally posted by sandip mense:
Great to see a admirer of Belgaum. Buth things have changed with time over in Belgaum. It is no more greener nor does it have the climate of late 80�s or early 90�s anymore. Now the summers are hot and dry, summers have a temperature hovering around 40 deg centigrade.


Well... I left belgaum in August 2004, and I found the weather much better , less humid and less polluted as compared to any big city!!
Arjunkumar Shastry
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Now weather in Belagaum is not that good.Increasing number of shopping complexes at evry corner,eateries in residential areas have made the city uncomfortable to live.As somebody said,city was cool till early nineties.Biryani/Tandoori just outside the bus station is still tasty.


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Srinivasa Raghavan
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What abt Chennai .


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Manish Hatwalne
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Pune!!!
Banglore second best....

- Manish
Arjunkumar Shastry
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Pune was good till 80s until those 10 million apartments mushroomed in Kothrud.
How is Visakhapatanam?
soumya ravindranath
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Originally posted by Srinivasa Raghavan:
What abt Chennai .


As long as I could stay in a cooled room, I wouldn't mind
Jason Menard
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To move the things back on topic to the OP's post... Out of those listed, I've never been there but I suppose Raleigh. Don't get me wrong, I love upstate New York so Albany was close, but the thought of the winters isn't that appealing. As for the others, I'll take the east coast any day of the week.
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To move the things back on topic to the OP's post..


The thread moved form US to India.
Jason Menard
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Originally posted by Pradip Bhat:


The thread moved form US to India.


I didn't see the original poster ask anything about India, Australia, Europe, Central America, Papa New Guinea, or any other locations in the US or the rest of the world. His question was pretty specific. Maybe he's looking at job prospects in the locations he specified so he was looking for people's input on those locations? As blatant topic hijacking isn't very nice, I am making an effort to move it back to something more relevant.
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Gerald Davis
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Months ago I looked at cities quality of living. Many Sweedish cities ranked high. I know that Sweeden is a socialist country with child poverty is one of the lowest in the western world. This countrie's success and general happyness makes me think about socialism in a positive light.
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Jeroen Wenting
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Originally posted by Pradip Bhat:


The thread moved form US to India.


Like most of the IT sector...
Ashok Mash
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
Months ago I looked at cities quality of living. Many Sweedish cities ranked high.


Sweden and Norway topped 2004 lists, but I am not entirely sure if the surveys parameters are correct or relevant to average Joe!

Recent surveys placed Dublin the best place to live, and Dubs the happiest and leading an excellent life etc, I get a shock every time I buy a lunch, buy a drink or every Friday when I look at Irish independent property supplement!


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Mark Spritzler
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OH, and Raleigh is part or next to Research Triangle Park. Where IBM is located and some other great technology companies.

Guys, please stop hijacking this thread. Roger wants serious answers, this is about his life and a tough choice he needs to make. There are only four cities to discuss here, no others. Thanks

Mark
Marc Peabody
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Originally posted by Roger Johnson:

career wise, generally, i guess ann arbor is the best;

quality of living wise, i do not know, may be ann arbor again? (thinking about univ of michigan, close to detroit, close to great lakes, ...)

Better for your career if you are a professor maybe. For the IT field, Michigan ain't so great.

And Ann Arbor isn't very close to the Great Lakes and being close to Detroit isn't necessarily an advantage for quality of living, although the new sports stadiums do change things a bit if you are a big sports fan.

Weatherwise I say it's hands down Reno - the Carolinas are unbearably humid in the summer and the northern locations get 8 months of winter.

Overall I think I'd pick Raleigh, assuming I didn't have my entire family in MI like they are.


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Pat Davis
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realtor.com tells me:

owning a home, if you make $100,000 per year in reno, (of course, if you make $10,000 a year, you got to divide everything by 10)

you need make $105,680 in ann arbor

$85,505 in raleigh

$89,211 in albany
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AamirAli Ahsan
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Vancouver BC Canada
Mark Spritzler
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Originally posted by AamirAli Ahsan:
Vancouver BC Canada


Not one of his choices.

OK, If I see any posts about any city that is not one of his four choices, I will delete that post. Please stop hijacking his thread.

Mark
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The "triangle" including Raleigh was one of the most popular growth areas years back, and ran into all the perils of fast growth - keeping up with roads, schools, fire, all that stuff you have to manage in Sim City. But I've heard they have those problems under control now and it's a great area. Anybody have first hand experience?

Myself, I'm looking for warmer, newer and more progressive next time.
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peter wooster
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I've visited North Carolina (Outer Banks) in the late spring and its pretty steamy. I had a girlfriend from Maryland who came up to Toronto to visit in August, when the temperature was above 30C, she thought it was beautiful and so pleasantly cool. Anything south of DC is nearly unbearable after the end of May.

I'd pick Ann Arbor myself, but I'm from Canada, so its close to home and the weather is similar ( and its only 5 months of winter, not 8).
Roger Johnson
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Originally posted by Roger Johnson:
albany, new york
ann arbor, michigan
raleigh,north carolina
reno, nevada


just noticed that northeast, south, midwest, and west all have represnetative here
Marc Peabody
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Originally posted by peter wooster:
I'd pick Ann Arbor myself, but I'm from Canada, so its close to home and the weather is similar ( and its only 5 months of winter, not 8).


You might want to reconsider the claim of 5 months after all that snow this weekend. Most of the continent considers that winter weather!
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Raleigh is a beautiful city, but the humidity would kill me (I am from the Minnesota/North Dakota area...). Ann Arbor is nice as well, and the weather isn't nearly as cold as some might think! I am not a far of Albany and I have never been to Reno.

So my choice would be Raleigh if you can take the humidity and Ann Arbor if you would like more civilized weather


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Reno. Lake Tahoe is 30 minutes away, you're right along I-80 with a straight shot to California, excellent summer and winter recreation, no state income tax. Land's getting stupid expensive what with all those Californians coming over the pass, though.

And you probably don't want to live *in* Reno or Sparks. The I-80 interchange is woefully out of date. You'd want to live south of town, I'd think.


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Roger Johnson
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i guess if you want to buy home in following area, i would be very careful.


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Originally posted by Marc Peabody:

You might want to reconsider the claim of 5 months after all that snow this weekend. Most of the continent considers that winter weather!


Snow? We didn't get any in Toronto, I hear Cleveland got dumped on, but it stayed south of the Great Lakes. It's been a bit chilly hear, but its 8C, and tomorrow its supposed to be 16C with rain, the grass is green, the flowers are coming up, the birds are back, sounds like spring to me.

BTW the 5 months are .5 nov, dec, jan, feb, mar, .5 apr.
 
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