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Peter Madden
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To all the fathers/parents out there who have been taking pictures of their new borns and kids ... please suggest if this dad-to-be should
1. go for a digital camera or a camcorder
2. which one do you recommend?


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peter wooster
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Originally posted by Peter Madden:
To all the fathers/parents out there who have been taking pictures of their new borns and kids ... please suggest if this dad-to-be should
1. go for a digital camera or a camcorder
2. which one do you recommend?


I'd go for the digital camera, I tend to find home movies insufferable. Photos are much better since they can be viewed casually, you don't have to make an event out of it.
R K Singh
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Originally posted by peter wooster:
I'd go for the digital camera, I tend to find home movies insufferable. Photos are much better since they can be viewed casually, you don't have to make an event out of it.


same here ..

But still when I watch my niece playing with water in tub .. or crawling or .. its different feeling all together.

But if you buy digi cam with enough memory (say 1 GB, can record upto 45 min and more than 400 pics) I think it would serve as camcorder too.. [the only thing is that you cant change focus once you have started recording ..]
Christian Schnepf
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My wife and I opted on the camcorder. We already had a digital camera that we use fairly often.

When I grew up we didn't have a camcorder. My dad was (and still is) always a big photo guy.

My wife's family had a camcorder. I thought it was neat watching some of the videos of her and her family prior to knowing her. So far we have never watched more then 30 minutes or so at a time, so it isn't like your grandparent's slide shows
Thomas Paul
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You will need a digital camera, a camcorder, and a regular film camera.


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Kishore Dandu
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
You will need a digital camera, a camcorder, and a regular film camera.


and a good paying job with fat bonuses to have all the above


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Steven Bell
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
You will need a digital camera, a camcorder, and a regular film camera.


Having all three of the above (digi camera, digi camcorder, and film SLR) I would say the film camera isn't a big deal unless you're really into that kind of thing as long as the digi cam is a good one.

I have yet to see a digital camera that can record video anywhere near the quality of a camcorder so if you want video you need a camcorder.

There really are no digital camcorders that can take as good of pictures as a good digi camera so if you want good stills you need a camera. This has more to do with optics than raw megapixels anymore and may change before to long.

With the tools available today home videos no longer have to be an hour long suckfest of motion sickness causing bordem. I usually take two or three hours of video and cut it down to about 15 minutes of watchable movie.
Aditya Prakash
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But if you buy digi cam with enough memory (say 1 GB, can record upto 45 min and more than 400 pics) I think it would serve as camcorder too.. [the only thing is that you cant change focus once you have started recording ..]


Peter, don't be misinformed here. The notions that digital cams cannot change focus, have relatively less resolution, cumbersome to handle as camcorders etc are just misconceptions. I was misinformed for a long time, until I decided to go for the Canon Powershot S1-IS. It comes with 10X optical zoom (which is really all you should be worried about, not the 32X digital zoom which you will probably use less than 5% of the time), Image Stabilization, an awesome rotating LCD display - great for movie shooting, and an amazing range of preset capture modes. The video mode is particularly impressive, and I've made some amazing movies using this - being able to fully use the digital cam features whilst shooting movies - zoom et al. For its price, I can safely say there are very few that would be able to beat its versatility, reliability and quality.

Some might argue that the 3MP might be less than adequate, but hey, unless you are planning to print blown-up posters, pictures shot at 3MP with optimal zoom are great for home viewing, preserving memories and showing off among friends! And this is coming from someone who pursues photography as a serious (and extremely financially-draining) hobby!
Steven Bell
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Aditya made some good points, but I'll have to disagree on a couple.

A digital camera can have great resolution and zoom, and allow zooming while doing video. However, the resolution on video is not as good as you will get from a camcorder, it's getting closer, but it still cams are still around a couple hundred lines of resolution lower. Video in a still camm will eat away large chunks of memory on your card leaving you with the choice to buy two or three 1GB cards or limit yourself on the amount of video and stills you take (for vacation purposes, everyday home use this wouldn't be a big issue).

Of course this all depends on your goal of final product. If you are happy to settle for slightly less resolution for the convenience of smaller still cam, and having everything in one that might be the way to go. Also if video is more of a bonus and stills are the main focus a still cam is probably going to be more than adiquate.

A 3MP camera will probably be fine, I prefer to go a bit bigger (I have a 5MP), mainly if I want to crop a smaller section of a picture I have that ability. On a 3MP once you start to crop and then try to do an 8x10 you'll be able to see that it is a digital picture.

Finally on zoom Aditya is right about the optical vs digital zoom. Optical zoom gets you closer to the subject without sacrificing quality. Digital zoom is basically enlarging the pixels, it looks closer, but you lose a bit of quality. A higher MP camera will handle this a bit better, but if you can you should avoid using much if any digital zoom.
peter wooster
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
You will need a digital camera, a camcorder, and a regular film camera.


I agree on the first two, if you want movies, get a camcorder, if you want stills get a good digital camera, preferably a DSLR. As a person who has a Nikon F80 (film SLR) that I haven't used since I got the D70, I'm not sure it's that worthwhile. When our digital was a 2MP Kodak, I still used the F80 all the time.

Most high end digital cameras do not have "movie" or "digital zoom" features, these are marketing hype commonly found on lower end products. Digital zoom is completely useless for still photography, its just cropping.
soumya ravindranath
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You could do with a digital camera or a normal film camera during the first 1-2 months. Once they show you that smile, you will go crazy for a while and start recording every moment, then you would need the camcorder. You start talking about it to your family/friends far away and they say "show us", then you know you should have taken digital pictures as well. Happened to us

Watching old home videos is sure fun!
R K Singh
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Originally posted by soumya ravindranath:
You could do with a digital camera or a normal film camera during the first 1-2 months. Once they show you that smile, you will go crazy for a while and start recording every moment, then you would need the camcorder. You start talking about it to your family/friends far away and they say "show us", then you know you should have taken digital pictures as well. Happened to us

Watching old home videos is sure fun!


Agree with everyone, for sure watching home videos are fun

I feel that I use camera more than camcorder... so if you want to buy one of them then go for digicam but if you want to shoot your child while playing in tub then digicam is not enough.

But if you want to shoot 5-10 min movie(just like that) only then go for digicam.

You cant change focus in digicam once focus is set.. sometime it irritates but still it works for me.

PS: I have almost library full of my niece's video but everytime I endup watching printed photos.
 
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