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Kishore Dandu
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Just saw this evening.

Awesome movie. The director is going to go places.

The movie came very close to greatness. Excellent story telling and casting. Only drawback is dark fight sequences and the director needs to shed his 'Memento' ideals.


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Max Habibi
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
the director needs to shed his 'Memento' ideals.


Interesting comment. What do you mean, exactly?


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Ranga Sreenivasan
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
Only drawback is dark fight sequences and the director needs to shed his 'Memento' ideals.


What do you mean by "Shed his 'Memento' ideals"? Didn't u like "Memento"? Personally I think its a classic. :roll:
Kishore Dandu
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Originally posted by Ranga Sreenivasan:


What do you mean by "Shed his 'Memento' ideals"? Didn't u like "Memento"? Personally I think its a classic. :roll:


I agree that Memento is a classic. My comment is more towards his taking of fight sequences. He needs to change his taking.
Kishore Dandu
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Originally posted by Max Habibi:


Interesting comment. What do you mean, exactly?


Its about his fight sequences taking. Many of fight sequences are non-sequential and can be tough on a average viewer's perspective. I like it that way, but to be adoptable and become greatness; these kind of aspects should be adoptable to a general audience than specific audience.
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I think part of the issue is the legacy of Batman, as legend. This is hard to explain, but Batman is meant to be Really Menacing. There is something less then menacing about actually seeing him engage in hand-to-hand combat, vs., say, watching him walk into a dark room, hearing a few thuds, and seeing a dozen people knocked out.

It works the same way that unseen horror in a movie can be more chilling them lots of blood & gore. I think the mythos of Batman demands that we view him as a BMF: we don't know exactly how he does what he does, but there's not question that he does it well, and he could probably do it to you.

The only thing that really bothered me, to be honest, was his refusal to save RAG. That definitely wasn't in character.
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arvindh seshadri
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The first half was good . The problem with batman character is that the first television series that came out prtrayed the character as comical and moreover all the villans in the comics are comical . scarecrow was good . The climax of the movie is yet another bomb gimmick which made it look like another action movie . The first half was real sinistrical . lets hope the second part would be even more thrilling with joker as villian.
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Me and my 15-yr-old enjoyed the whole thing.

Except (spoiler) who would build a well down into the dry part of a cave when there is a river capable of making a nice waterfall handy on the surface and the water that is in the cave is in the freakin basement to begin with?

I thought the sound was over the top, too. Every punch and footstep and door opening sounded like a train wreck, and everybody's "scary" voices didn't work for me. I heard the same punched up noises in a preview for something about Christopher Columbus (apparently) and it was wildly out of place.

Loved the car.


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Personally from my point of view I felt somewhat disappointed by the fight scenes in Batman Begins. But apart from that it's a totally awesome movie. It looks at every angle especially the conflict between Batman and Bruce Wayne.
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I agree with Max about the fight scenes. My take on them is that the audience is subjected to the point of view of the villians who have no idea what is going on and just see flashes of a menacing figure before being knocked senseless. The confusion of the audience trying to follow the fight scenes mirrors the confusion of Batman's "victims".

If you imagine the fight sequences done in, let's say, The Matrix style, I don't think the impact and impression would have been the same.

The movie gets a big Thumbs Up(tm) from me!


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We saw it last night, and thought it was awesome. We saw it on the IMAX Screen, man that was big. Couldn't understand or really see what was going on in the fight scenes, but that was ok. Kind of gave it a mystique.

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