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SCEA for a developer.

Anton Golovin
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Joined: Jul 02, 2004
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Folks, i am a java developer, and i would like to take SCEA to gain skills such as UML. i find i like system analysis a lot and tend to be good with patterns.

Would you recommend? It's a lot of money and not that easy. Eventually i want to do consulting as a corp2corp, and having these skills will be essential.

Just looked, and it is 875 dollars for the three parts.
[ November 20, 2008: Message edited by: Anton Golovin ]

Anton Golovin ( SCJP, SCJD, SCBCD, SCWCD, OCEJWSD, SCEA/OCMJEA [JEE certs from Sun/Oracle]
Jesper de Jong
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Well, ofcourse SCEA is not the only way to learn UML. You could just buy a book about UML and start studying. It's only good if you know it before you start your SCEA certification.

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Theodore Casser
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I've been thinking of the best way to respond to this since I noticed the query yesterday afternoon. I suppose my ambivalence in responding has been mostly due to the fact that the SCEA is not really geared towards the regular developer proving their understanding of UML - it's really aimed at software architects/designers. It's part of the reason (imho, since I don't work for Sun and can't really speak for them) that I think the exam is so expensive and thorough - it's to ensure that those who pass this have experience and knowledge in the skill sets required to design software.

A potentially cheaper way to prove your understanding of UML, if that's your goal, might be to take IBM's 833 and 834 (OOAD with UML2). It's certainly less involved than the SCEA and concentrates wholly on that realm, without the Java EE 5 dependent knowledge that must be demonstrated.

Theodore Jonathan Casser
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Anton Golovin
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Theodore, you're the type of person i have been looking for in this forum. You got Java and .NET certifications.

Therefore, you're on the hook for answering!

I'd like to learn exactly the same skills as you have.

How did you get it done?
Pradeep Mahajan

Joined: Jul 21, 2007
Posts: 11
well, if you are doing it just for yourselves, good enough.
but if you are looking for some better career prospects based on just your certification, it needs to be backed up by experience as well.
otherwise, the certificate is just a piece of paper.

Pradeep Mahajan.<br />Aspiring Architect.
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