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Joe Ess
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Ubuntu 8.10, Intrepid Ibex is available. Cool feature: a wizard to install it to a USB drive with persistence. It's like a Live CD, but you can save your changes, desktop, documents and so on.
Personally, after getting burned with the Hardy upgrade, it's a nice option to run the new code without installing.


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Long back, I first saw Knoppix when it was shipped with a magazine cd. Its a weekend here, will give this a try?? may be let me check. thanks for the link.


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I installed Kubuntu 8.10 yesterday and was less than impressed. I had to fight with KDE 4 to get it to do what I want, and it still refused to give in on many issues. Why do the letters v-i-s-t-a come to mind?

I'll try Ubuntu 8.10 this weekend and see if Gnome works better for me. Otherwise I will stick with Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 3, which is running just fine for me, and at least works the way I want it to.


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Joe Ess
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Originally posted by Peter Johnson:
I had to fight with KDE 4 to get it to do what I want, and it still refused to give in on many issues.


I tried the Ibex Kubuntu alpha builds in September. I really didn't like KDE 4. I've used KDE for at least two years, but KDE 4 really changes the interface. The fact that the alpha release was very buggy AND I had my own personal bug to contend with didn't help either.
It just so happens that when I got Hardy fixed, I was running Gnome, so that's what I've been using for the past month or so.
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I'm not really excited about Ubuntu 8.10. It doesn't have that many new features which are interesting to me, and 64-bit 8.04 runs great on my laptop. I'm staying with 8.04 (which is a long-term support release) for a while.


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Abhinav Srivastava
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Kubuntu looks neat. This time I won't rollback to the previous release!
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I tried Ubuntu 8.10, liked that much better, especially the desktop background. Installed it on my laptop - it found and installed drivers for my video card and wireless card, and both of those are working just fine. So I'm hooked there.

The only sad thing is that OpenOffice.org is at 2.x and not 3.0.

Also installed it as a client OS in VMWare Server 2.0, but I still have to overcome some issues with VMWare tools before I switch over completely. Until then, I will continue to use my Kubuntu 8.04 client which runs just fine.
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I will stay with with the LTS 8.04. Maybe try it out when I find some time.


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Found a tutorial on installing newer versions of OpenOffice on Ubuntu. I am now running OO 3.0. Much happier.
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Gregg Bolinger
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Originally posted by Peter Johnson:
Found a tutorial on installing newer versions of OpenOffice on Ubuntu. I am now running OO 3.0. Much happier.

[ November 02, 2008: Message edited by: Peter Johnson ]


How sad is it that you had to find a tutorial for something as trivial as upgrading software. This is what I don't like about Ubuntu (and possibly other distros that operate the same way).

I'm not impressed at all with 8.10.


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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
How sad is it that you had to find a tutorial for something as trivial as upgrading software. This is what I don't like about Ubuntu (and possibly other distros that operate the same way).

Most of the Linux distributions have a package management system, with which it is very easy to install software, and which will automatically take care of installing security updates for your installed software.

Not all updates to software are immediately added in the official Ubuntu repository. When a new Ubuntu release is made, a few weeks before the release the versions of software that are in the repository are determined, and software in the repository for that Ubuntu release is usually not upgraded to a major new version. Only security updates or updates to fix high-impact bugs are added. This is mainly to ensure stability of the system.

OpenOffice 3 unfortunately came out too late to be included in Ubuntu 8.10. Note that initially the plan was to include it in 8.10, but the OO3 release slipped by several weeks and went past the deadline for the 8.10 feature freeze.

If you want the latest version of all software all the time, you should use a rolling release Linux distribution, and not a stable release distro such as Ubuntu.

Installing OO3 is not that hard if you really want it.
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Intreoid Ibex is the answer for laptop users, it has all that I was looking for my T400. Now I have 8.10 on the T400 which was running Windows XP and 8.4 on the desktop.
I am quite happy with 8.10 64 bit performance and out of the box device support, it even detect the built-in web came out of the box.


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Akhilesh Trivedi
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I got disconnected three times half-way through download and DAP did not resume back, had to start afresh from new mirror all the time but... ( which mirror supports resume?
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Originally posted by Akhilesh Trivedi:
I got disconnected three times half-way through download


Try the bittorrent download. It's probably faster and you can pause and resume.
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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
How sad is it that you had to find a tutorial for something as trivial as upgrading software.


I wholeheartedly agree. On my Windows boxes, I simply downloaded the OO 3.0 MSI file, double-clicked it, and when the installation wizard was done my OO 2.4 had been updated to 3.0. No tutorial necessary.

But to be fair, the tutorial merely offered common-sense advice: uninstall 2.4 first, then download and install 3.0 from the OO web site. Fairly simple, really. The only tricky part was running the installer for 3.0 - you have to do it in two locations: one for the packages, the other for the menu entries. Besides, sometimes when you do something for the first time (this was my first attempt at replacing OO), it helps to have a tutorial because there is always the possibility that you might overlook something.
Akhilesh Trivedi
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Originally posted by Joe Ess:


Try the bittorrent download. It's probably faster and you can pause and resume.


...will queue it up. Thanks.
Akhilesh Trivedi
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Joe, I have a 2GB pen-drive and I would like to install linux from the ISO, I downloaded. How do I go about it? Is it that I would still have to burn a live-cd first? or I can simply dump the ISO on USB? I understand I will have to set boot options (to USB) in BIOS right?
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Joe Ess
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I burned the install ISO to a CD, booted from that and the utility to make a bootable USB pen drive was on the desktop. The only other way I can think of would be to boot the ISO using VMWare or VirtualBox.
And yes, if you can boot from USB, your bios will have a setting for it in the boot devices.
Akhilesh Trivedi
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Originally posted by Joe Ess:
I burned the install ISO to a CD, booted from that and the utility to make a bootable USB pen drive was on the desktop. The only other way I can think of would be to boot the ISO using VMWare or VirtualBox.
And yes, if you can boot from USB, your bios will have a setting for it in the boot devices.


No VMWare here, I would go with CD option. Thanks much.
 
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