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Bobby Sharma
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I know SAP Guru is training organization and offers SAP training for different
modules and may be Job guarantee.

I have two questions for ya :

1)is that good idea to pay 1 lac rupees of those courses or I should look for different authorized institutes?

2)is he really provide job guarantee?

best regards,
omi


Back to Java , again.
Karnati Sudhakar
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Joined: Aug 26, 2008
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Why you want to move to SAP from Java?

Regards
Sudhakar


Regards
Sudhakar
Bobby Sharma
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Because ... I do not see any Java job in my territory or anywhere near of it.I declare again I am jobless.What I can find are data entry, data operator,networking and SAP CRM/SCM/MM/PP/HR jobs.

by the way , I can find J2SE(GUI based) jobs but I don't want to do that
and I will never do that because I love web and database stuffs.

qualification BSC.IT),(MBA IT)
12th : not math background
dislike : calculus and higher maths.
likes : jsp/servlet, core java,sql
age : 25yr old

In short ,I am frustrated ,bored and too old for development work.

So I have two options :

1)SAP
2)Oracle DBA

best regards,
omi

[ November 05, 2008: Message edited by: omi sharma ]
[ November 05, 2008: Message edited by: omi sharma ]
Arvind Mahendra
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join an authorized institute if you are going to do something like that. I think the extra cost will be worth it and I think you are not allowed to sit for a certification exam if you do it from just anywhere. You will have to double check this however. About jobs, I also hope you are aware it might be just as hard to get into it the SAP field as the jobs are that much more scarcer and requirements much stringent.
good luck.


I want to be like marc
Bobby Sharma
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I created the thread in high frustration and my real motive was to ask you guys is that wise idea to jump into SAP world.?

I am aware that all famous SAP modules are already implemented by MNCS and
three hot modules(Net weaver,CRM,SCM) are adopted by many experienced professional and domain knowledge experts.In short market is saturated by
SAP professional and it is very hard to break into SAP field.Those professional can blow me away like the way cat does with rat.

When I thought about leaving Java I almost cried ,even thought about suicide
because I have spent lot of time in learning c++,Java and oracle(self-taught due to personal problems).

I need to expose my Java skills that's all,so I am wondering is there any place where I can get live projects' experience.

best regards,
omi
Arvind Mahendra
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The newspapers are awash with ads giving 'live project experience' or 'company work experience certificate'(interpret this as you may) Look in TOI Wednesday edition it as a career section.
Karnati Sudhakar
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Joined: Aug 26, 2008
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When I thought about leaving Java I almost cried ,even thought about suicide


Why suicide? life is not JAVA..Cheer up dude

What i can suggest you is why dont you learn new technologies likw Spring,AJAX,Hibernate and get stronger in Web technologies you are interested in rather than moving to entirely new technology.

FYI: I am into testing but very much interested in JAVA and completed SCJP,SCWCD and now on the way to SCBCD but never lose hope.

Winners never quit.Quitters never win.

Regards
Sudhakar Karnati
[ November 05, 2008: Message edited by: Karnati Sudhakar ]
Bobby Sharma
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Arvind : Thanks Arvind for your info , I will check it out.

Karanti : Thanks for calming me down,I will make friends like Hibernate,
Spring and Struts.

And as to SAP,I will take care of it after five years working in JEE.

best regards,
omi
Ashu Upadhyaya
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Joined: Sep 27, 2005
Posts: 19
Hi

I know people who started career in software at age of 30+ & are successful and you are just 25!

Personal Suggestion [If I were you]:
-----------------------------------------
For learning new things THE BEST one can get is:
*****http://www.javapassion.com/ [from SUN Micro Systems evangelist]

http://courses.coreservlets.com/ [Marty Hall]

CDAC & NSCT (now merge with CDAC) courses are again I found to be best for people like you. you do their 6month-1yr diploma & gain good exposure to software dev & GOOD campus placement. These diploma have very good recognition in industry. A score of people I seen with BCom/Bsc/BA/MBA/BTech (with no tech degree or background) did these courses & placed with good names in sw industry. I strongly recommend these courses.
NCST (now CDAC) take people from such courses as TA (tech associate)/STA/Project Engineer/Staff Scientist & CDAC (MTS-member tech staff).

Start preparing for CST (Jan/Feb 2009)- competency in sw tech test

http://www.cdacmumbai.in/index.php/cdacmumbai/careers
http://cst.cdacmumbai.in/?q=/node/38

Even if you get TA with NCST (CDAC) you get exposure to sw which industry takes very favorably. Scores of people with jsut BA/Bcom I seen placed after this course/TA in good companies.

NCST (Juhu) & CDAC (Pune) are the BEST centers (campus placement & learning) but you need good rank in their entrance tests. You seems to already know a lot of things. I suggest you to learn grad level fundamentals in OS, Networking, Datastructures, Languages (C,C++, Java), DBMS which you might already studied during BSc/MAB(IT). Try to get as high rank as possible.

Esp Wipro recruits people with no tech degree BTech/MCA.

Invest you efforts in this direction instead of wasting time & money on fake institutes providing fake exp & false promises. I have seen you posting a lot of messages in this forum. Do this & you will be on you way to good career in SW industry.

For interview preparation BEST resource is [Dont Miss it]:
Java/J2EE Job Interview Companion (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1411668243?tag=jranch-20
Arulk Pillai Author Member # 149618 @ Java ranch Forum

Other Suggestion [explore yourself]:
------------------------------------
while I was at Delhi I heard about Appin (no personal exp though). you can try them for live project exp / placement.
http://www.appinonline.com/index.php

At Bangalore again I met people who did such programs from Integer academy
http://www.integerblr.com/

http://www.netdiox.com/
http://www.oratorsingh.com/

Don't loose heart. And all the very best.

-Ashu
[ November 08, 2008: Message edited by: Ashu Krsna ]
Bobby Sharma
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First of all , I have to thank you for your generous reply.

Thanks for your time and suggestions.

I already know about javapassion and coreservlets and used them
in my preparation for SCWCD.(totally fan of them)

As to CDAC courses,I thought about it but my heart and mind
does not allow me to do such courses as I have no time and patience
to spent 6th-1yr in their diplomas.

The courses they offer I already done in my degrees except computer organization,Mobile computing,network programming,information security.
I will take care of them except Mobile computing in which I am
not interested.

I think degree and diploma time is over and now is time
to do some real work.But I will think about to give their CST exam for
breaking into the Software trainee job.

Please accept my generous thanks again for informing me about
Industrial and on-site training sites.Those site will be extremely
helpful to me.You saved me the trouble

best regards,
omi
Rambo Prasad
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Joined: Feb 23, 2006
Posts: 628
Omi,

Try for a position in a small company..May be the pay wont be great but still you will get some good experience...

When I thought about leaving Java I almost cried ,even thought about suicide


Absolutely ridiculous...There are many people who have not even crossed high school,but are very successful compared to salaried IT professionals .Even a real estate broker in Bangalore earns more than a software guy..Even if you don't get any job don't think about suicide..There are so many other avenues to think about...


Helping hands are much better than the praying lips
Carl Williams
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Joined: Sep 27, 2007
Posts: 10
You can get a national comparison of Java & SAP job demand & salary for 2007 and 3 quarters of 2008 at Java Vs. Oracle
[ November 17, 2008: Message edited by: Carl Williams ]
Bobby Sharma
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thanks for your reply
 
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