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SCJP and recruiters

Russy Dupee
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Joined: Aug 17, 2007
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I am busy preparing for the SCJP and hoping of finding a Junior Java Programmer job and have found that after phoning quite a few recruiters that they don't have a about the SCJP certification and know about BSC and degrees only. I regard this certification highly and do you guys find that recruiters maybe not so clued up on vendor certifications and could skip candidates with this qualification?


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arulk pillai
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Certifications are handy to have for beginners, but employers look for more than just certification(s). You can improve your job prospects as a beginner with:


-- Well written resume promoting you as a balanced candidate with good technical skills and soft-skills.

-- Some familiarity or hands-on experience with soughr-after technologies/framework. E.g. contributing to open-source projects (preferred), self-taught projects, etc.


-- Effective job hunting and interviewing techniques.


How much the certifications are valued can vary from country to country and employer to employer, but regardless, it will give you the much needed confidence and teach you the basics well. So, don't put all your eggs in one basket. Try all different things listed above.


Some useful tips can be found at

Handy tips to get some work experience

http://www.coderanch.com/t/421990/Jobs/careers/Handy-tips-some-work-experience

Job Hunting Tips:

http://www.coderanch.com/t/33396/Jobs/careers/handy-job-hunting-tips-tough


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Richard O'Shay
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Joined: Oct 11, 2008
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It's the project leaders and managers that will be interested in candidates with SCJP. However, don't confuse knowledge of a specific language syntax, with its associated libraries, as evidence you can write computer programs, let alone design one. SCJP is an important qualification, all else being equal. Hiring decisions will not start or end with SCJP, but it should be given a lot of weight.


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arulk pillai
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Firstly, certifications are for your own benefit, i.e. boost your confidence, teach you the fundamentals, etc. So, certifications are important, but convincing your recruiter that you can get the job done is a separate ball game. Just becaues you are certified does not mean that you can get the job done better than those who are not certified. I have worked with many talented professionals who are not certified at all. In my view hands-on experience is more valuable, especially in the sought-after technologies along with good soft skills. Certifications are handy for beginners, but once you progress to the next levels in your career, you need to look at building the other skills.

Secondly, there will be many other candidates with similar certifications. So, how do you standout from those candidates? Certified or not, you will be put through the same interviewing process. Even if you are certified, you will be drilled with technical and non-technical questions to assess your suitability for the job.

My advise would be to channel your efforts in a balanced approach

-- Get 1 or 2 certifications, but don't get obsessed with piling up your certifications. In some countries, certifications are very popular and can add significant value. Do your research by going through the online advertisements to see what the recruiters/employers are looking for.

-- More importantly, gain as much hands-on experience as you can get through contribution to open-source projects, etc.

-- Familiarize yourself with some of the sought-after technologies/frameworks by contributing to open-source projects, self-taught projects, tutorials, etc atleast to have a big picture.

-- Write a resume that promotes you as a well-balanced candidate with both technical and soft skills.

-- Learn and apply other required skills like job hunting, networking, self-promotion, interviewing, etc.

Some of the following links will be a good read.

Experience vs Certifications

Why soft skills are important?
[ December 18, 2008: Message edited by: arulk pillai ]
 
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