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Microsoft buying Yahoo ?

Bill Mc Coy
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It seems MS is going to buy Yahoo to counter Google's increased popularity in ad-business.
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Cameron Wallace McKenzie
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Microhoo? Yasoft?

Not sure if I like either of them.

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shan Iyer
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Cameron W. McKenzie wrote :
Microhoo? Yasoft? Not sure if I like either of them.


How about the reverse ?


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Tontang Bei
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Yipeeeeeee!!!
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Originally posted by Tontang Bei:
Yipeeeeeee!!!


Why is this something to be cheered? I fear the worst.


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It would be a complete mess and major fiasco. Luckily, it will never happen. There are just too many obstacles in the way.
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This would be as likely, and stupid, as Time Warner linking up with AOL.

What do you mean that actually happened?

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Ashok Mash
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Originally posted by Ulf Dittmer:
Why is this something to be cheered? I fear the worst.


I agree. Its probably going to 'Moooo!'.

Now, I have to say, its not a bad move - At the rate is Google is now going, they could easily become another Micro$haft in no time! Turning up the heat (competition) would force Google to keep working harder and produce better goodies for us!


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Speculation about a possible Microsoft-Yahoo tie-up met with skepticism Friday from analysts as reports that the deal was already dead began to surface. The reported takeover talks that sent shares of Yahoo Inc. up by 10 percent Friday were no longer taking place, the Wall Street Journal said in an online article citing sources familiar with the negotiations.

Analysts cynical of Microsoft-Yahoo deal


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Bill Mc Coy
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With Yahoo's sagging fortunes, and M$ offering a 60% premium over Yahoo's current evaluation, it may finally very much happen.Dont know how Google will be affected by that
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Sure, M$ has made the offer, but i THINK it still would need approval from the FTC or some government agency. I'm not sure what the odds of that happening are...


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Pat Farrell
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Originally posted by Cameron W. McKenzie:
This would be as likely, and stupid, as Time Warner linking up with AOL.


I believe that Steve Case is the smartest businessman on the planet.

He took an overvalued business that he could not sell without bursting the bubble, and converted his and his partners' shared into Time Warner stock.

That in 18 months or so, the combined company was worth only what Time Warner itself was worth, shows that AOL had no long term value.

Case converted irrational exuberance into hard cold cash.
Brilliant.

The bosses at Time Warner, of course, were taken for fools.

On MicroHoo, I don't see any benefit to either. I think its desperation on M$'s part.
Chetan Parekh
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What Google will do with Hotmail/MSN/Yahoo Mail/YIM when it will buy Microsoft?
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Sameer Jamal
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Originally posted by Chetan Parekh:
What Google will do with Hotmail/MSN/Yahoo Mail/YIM when it will buy Microsoft?

[ February 03, 2008: Message edited by: Chetan Parekh ]


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Akhilesh Trivedi
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Originally posted by Chetan Parekh:
What Google will do with Hotmail/MSN/Yahoo Mail/YIM when it will buy Microsoft?

[ February 03, 2008: Message edited by: Chetan Parekh ]


It will think on when to buy Microsoft. :roll:


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Kashyap Hosdurga
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One thing I have observed in Java ranch is they are against MS. I am not a MS fan and I am not here to soothe the relationship between MS and Java ranch but I feel the following are valid points that should be considered before MS. (also if someone posts a better counter-argument for the following I can use the same when I have similar arguments with my friends )

1. They made computes easy to use (as a lay man)
2. Indirectly helping the IT boom that we are seeing today ( do you think it would be same if we just had IBM/SUN machines instead Intel PCs )
3. Any company that grows will be a MS after a certain mass/size is reached and I'm afraid Google is following the steps.
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I watched the movie "Antitrust" expecting to get some good points
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Originally posted by Kashyap Hosdurga:

1. They made computes easy to use (as a lay man)
2. Indirectly helping the IT boom that we are seeing today ( do you think it would be same if we just had IBM/SUN machines instead Intel PCs )
3. Any company that grows will be a MS after a certain mass/size is reached and I'm afraid Google is following the steps.


I think there is a fair amount of truth here. Although I would not say that Java Ranch is against M$, rather that a lot of folks who are developers are against M$, and many of them hang out on JavaRanch.

Applicable to JavaRanch, I have two main beefs with M$.

First, they destroyed a lot of Java efforts with J++ and later C#. Those efforts could have helped a lot.

Second, they have not done anything interesting with their OS monopoly in a long time. I started developing for Windows back in Windows/386 v2.11 days. For a long time, each new release brought cool stuff that improved my world as a developer. Win 3.0 brought good looks, WfWg 3.11 brought TCP/IP, NT 3.1 brought robust, crash free life. NT 3.51 brought performance. Win95 brought some limited 32 bit computing to the masses, plus it was pretty.

But Win95 was over a decade ago.

What have they done for me lately? Not much.

Its time for M$ to start over. Build a modern OS based on ideas from this century. Understand networking and security and usability, in combination, are critical to improve us.

I want an OS that is a step like DOS to Windows 2.11 was, or Windows 3.0 from 2.11.

Layering nice eye candy on top of Vista (which is really XP, which is really W2K which is really NT 4 ...) just doesn't count as world class innovation anymore.

YMMV :-)
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The Wall Street Journal has reported that Yahoo plans to reject Microsoft's takeover bid, saying it 'massively undervalues' the company.

Ref: CNN - Yahoo to reject Microsoft bid - source.


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marc weber
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Originally posted by Pat Farrell:
... Although I would not say that Java Ranch is against M$, rather that a lot of folks who are developers are against M$, and many of them hang out on JavaRanch...

I think that's fair.

A lot of JavaRanch users are solid Windows users. I realize we have some people in this forum (myself included) who are critical of MS, but we're just expressing our own personal opinions and preferences.
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Yahoo-Microsoft deal called off
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Strange wording. There was never "a deal"; there was an unsolicited offer, which the Yahoo Board rejected. Microsoft has reaffirmed its commitment to see it through, and several Yahoo shareholders have signalled interest in selling, so this isn't over by a long shot.
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Now, Rupert Murdoch eyes Yahoo!
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Users are fleeing from Yahoo. It's junk. Why would anyone register with Yahoo when they could have a Facebook account and easily network with friends.

I think Yahoo shareholders should thank their lucky stars that someone is interested in this service that has shown little more than the ability to lose users.

Microsoft shouldn't worry about the offer being rebuffed. Next year they can come back and offer 22 billion, and the year after that, 11 million. When Yahoo has no users left, maybe I'll buy them out with the change left in my pocket after I've bought myself a Tim Hortons Coffee.

Yahoo is the past. They're being buried.

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Originally posted by Cameron Wallace McKenzie:
Users are fleeing from Yahoo.

Apart from the many millions that don't, obviously.

Why would anyone register with Yahoo when they could have a Facebook account and easily network with friends.

Mind telling us how Facebook might endeavor to compete with the many services Yahoo offers, none of which Facebook has, not even remotely?

So, Cameron, you don't like Google, you don't like Yahoo, you don't like Apple - all companies making hundreds of millions of dollars profit a year, or even billions. Are there any winners you like?
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An elephant is like a rope!
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Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
An elephant is like a rope!
Indeed it is. And when I climb Mount Everest, I plan to take plenty of elephants to help me up the steep bits.
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So, Cameron, you don't like Google, you don't like Yahoo, you don't like Apple - all companies making hundreds of millions of dollars profit a year, or even billions. Are there any winners you like?



Apple is down almost 50% from it's high. Google has shaved $200 off its share price. Yahoo has been bumbling for years, and will never be what it once was.

Making hundreds of millions? Not for their shareholders.

And for Yahoo's portal features, like stocks and mail and stuff, I don't see that as a differentiating factor anymore. Every portal has that. Yes, there are people who will go to Yahoo, no matter how bad it is, just like there will always be people that buy Fords, even though they're junk. People are creatures of habit, there's no doubting that. But Facebook is new. To have them add stock portfolio portlets, or instant messaging, well, that's a no brainer. Easily done, and again, not really a differentiating factor at all. As Mark said somewhere else, Google has bought all of that themselves. Hasn't stopped their stock from freefalling though.

I like Tim Hortons Coffee. Now that's a winner. Buy their stock and drink their coffee. Very egalitarian, not like those ostentatious seattle brands that offer 10 different flavours because they know none of them are all that good.

By the way, I do like Apple stock, and own such. I think the possibility that iTunes could take over the music distribution, along with movie rental business from blockbuster and NetFlicks is very possible.

Also, they have a huge number of users that will pay rediculously outrageous prices for marginally better products like the iPhone or their computers. With loyal customers that don't care about handing their wallets over to buy proprietary software products, I think Apple will do quite well.

Ok, that's enough Trolling for Apple lovers. Don't anyone take the bait. I don't need to be beaten up on another thread about how great iMacs are.

Now, what else do I hate? Cops...Insurance Companies...Lawyers (except mine of course)...Cell Phone Companies...Cable Companies...Parking Lot Attendants...Sheesh...Think I better just stick with my Tim Hortons Coffee. At least everyone will know where to find me.



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Chetan Parekh
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Now a Yahoo bid from former AOL CEO
Akhilesh Trivedi
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Originally posted by Chetan Parekh:
Now a Yahoo bid from former AOL CEO



Any takers? Yahoo's new CEO reporting here.!
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Why is yahoo still so popular, when there are so many sites that have email
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Yahoo offers a whole lot more than just email.
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Collaboration between Microsoft and Yahoo for Search Engine to beat Google.

Reference : http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/29/technology/microsoft_yahoo/?postversion=2009072908
 
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