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Mark Spritzler
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OK, so this thread might end up trashed, but keep in mind that it isn't any personal attack on you if someone has an opinion that one team is much better than another. Just don't call each other names.

So, who do you like? USC or Texas. Or ... Texas or USC?

So I am biased, I am for USC, since I graduated from there.

But I also think that we have no idea how it will go until it is actually played.

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Jesse Torres
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USC vs Texas should be a great game. Two unbeaten teams, respectively ranked 1st and 2nd, going head-to-head for the National title.
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I want USC to give Texas the same thrashing that Texas gave my poor Buffaloes


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Paul Bourdeaux
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Heck, for one I am just happy that the BCS system got it right. USC and Texas are definately the two teams that should be in the Rose Bowl!

For my money, ever since the Notre Dame/USC game I have been pulling for USC.


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Yes, fo rthe most part I think the BCS worked this year. The only one hick-up and it is strictly due to the contract that Notre Dame has with the BCS. Which , in and of itself is weird, the only school that has a contract, all the other schools is through their conference.

OK, so Oregon, who's only loss was against USC, the #1 team, and also beat Notre Dame, doesn't get to go to a BCS bowl game, but the team it beat Notre Dame does.

Now, there is the arguement that Florida State which is going to a BCS bowl has lost to a good number of teams, 4 which aren't going to a BCS bowl either, but we can see the difference here.

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Originally posted by Paul Bourdeaux:
Heck, for one I am just happy that the BCS system got it right. USC and Texas are definately the two teams that should be in the Rose Bowl!

For my money, ever since the Notre Dame/USC game I have been pulling for USC.


I still don't think I am over the Notre Dame game this year. I was already through 4 of the 5 steps and almost through the last step involved with a loss. I was in denial, anger, bargaining, depression, then acceptance. Then they pull it off. I mean I was in shock more than being happy and excited for the rest of the week.

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From what I can gather this is a sports question (although its not obvious).
I'm guessing that use of the term "bowl" implies this is an NFL/Gridiron thing?
Am I right?

Is that a fair assumption do all NFL games take place in a "bowl"?
Do any other sports do stuff in a "bowl"?

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Obviously I'm not in a position to comment on a preference between Texas and USC - but If forced to pick one I'd say "Texas" because at least they have the decency to tell me where they're from in their name! "USC" Sounds to me like another technology the marketing guys try to persuade me I need to learn in order to gain benefit from IBMs latest "solution" offering.
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From what I can gather this is a sports question (although

What is being discussed is the final game of the College Football season in the USA, which, this season, will be between the University of Texas (Longhorns) and the University of Southern California(USC Trojans)

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Jesse Torres
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Originally posted by Adrian Wallace:
From what I can gather this is a sports question (although its not obvious).
I'm guessing that use of the term "bowl" implies this is an NFL/Gridiron thing?
Am I right?

Is that a fair assumption do all NFL games take place in a "bowl"?
Do any other sports do stuff in a "bowl"?

...
Obviously I'm not in a position to comment on a preference between Texas and USC - but If forced to pick one I'd say "Texas" because at least they have the decency to tell me where they're from in their name! "USC" Sounds to me like another technology the marketing guys try to persuade me I need to learn in order to gain benefit from IBMs latest "solution" offering.
(Set me straight here - what is "USC"?)... "Universal Service Collaborator?"


A Bowl refers to a stadium. But in this case, "Bowl" is the equivalent of "Cup" as in World Cup of Football (Soccer).
Paul Stevens
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Originally posted by Mark Spritzler:
The only one hick-up and it is strictly due to the contract that Notre Dame has with the BCS. Which , in and of itself is weird, the only school that has a contract, all the other schools is through their conference.

Mark


Actually that is not correct. The rule that allowed ND to go is the same rule that put Utah in last year. Non BCS conferences and ND go if in the top 6. The only explicit ND clause puts ND in the pool of teams if they are in the top 12 of the BCS. It does not mean they will be selected.

BCS conference winners do not even have to be in the top 20 or any where else for that matter.

Why do you feel it is ok for the BCS confernces to have explicit tie ins but not ND?

Oregon didn't go because they did not earn it. USC beat Oregon by 30+ and ND by 3 on the last play. Oregon played Houston and Montana as non conference opponents. The Pac 10 outside of USC was not very strong this year. Put all those together and you have a 1 loss team that was not deserving of a BCS game.
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Yes Paul. I agree with you. There are lots of arguments, that are all valid. And I won't say that Notre Dame isn't deserving of a BSC bowl bid over Florida State. I think they should make the conference winner has to have 2 or less loses. But, if they have that rule, is it possible that the ACC tells Florida State that it has to lose, or the conference will lose 14 Million Dollars.

But isn't one of Notre Dame's losses to that same Oregon team?

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Paul Stevens
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No it is not. ND lost to USC and Mich State. They did not lose to Oregon since they did not even play.
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Yeah, I realized my mistake and wasn't able to change my post in time.

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Yeah, except for the Pac Ten, Oregon really didn't play anyone this year.

Yeah, I would say Notre Dame would be more BCS eligible than Oregon.

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