This week's book giveaway is in the General Computing forum. We're giving away four copies of Arduino in Action and have Martin Evans, Joshua Noble, and Jordan Hochenbaum on-line! See this thread for details.
At this point we haven't really put together a plan for a new EJB book. Over the next month or two we will be studying the situation and we expect that we'll have an answer for you. When we do have our answer, we'll post it here on JavaRanch first!
Thanks for your interest!
Bert
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but berts, all ejb 3.0 books already in market and why you people soo late and slow ? havn't you pre-planed and think about it when ejb3.0 specs finalized ?
all ejb 3.0 books already in market and why you people soo late and slow ? havn't you pre-planed and think about it when ejb3.0 specs finalized ?
It would be difficult to write an exam-oriented book if the exam is not yet available. For other books, they are just technical-oriented, but not for any particular exams.
A very valid observation.Come out with "Head first" "first" rather than waiting for "head first" from "head first" guys...
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Originally posted by Scott Johnson: [Amit] why you people soo late and slow ?
Congratulations. That's the rudest post that I've seen around here in quite a while. Didn't your mother ever teach you any manners? :roll:
[Amit]are you and kathy v.much busy?
If you are unhappy with the current selection of EJB books, instead of flaming authors, why don't you write your own book?
heyyy i don't think i have written any thing wrong ? just asked that weather bert and kathy are busy with someother task ?? my mother do teach manners very well..
by the way i m a big fan of Kathy and berts, so thats why eagerly waiting for thier book and asked such question ?
anyways I appologies if it hurts anybody ... [ November 06, 2006: Message edited by: amit taneja ]
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Hi Amit,
No offense taken
The truth is that we are often late, and we're ALWAYS slow :roll: I don't really know how much effort other tech book authors put into their books. I do have some data points however, mostly from what other tech book authors have volunteered, and I think that in many cases tech books are written more quickly than ours.
To be honest, we have to be very careful about which topics we pick. We can't seem to write a book quickly, so we have to make sure that we pick a topic that's popular enough to warrant the time we put in - so far the verdict is still out on EJB 3.0.
We will be at Sun next week working on the new SCBCD 3.0 exam. We are looking forward to spending the week with some EJB 3.0 experts, this should help us determine what we're going to do about an EJB 3.0 book. So, like I said earlier, we really don't know yet, but we hope to know in a few weeks.
hth,
Bert
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Originally posted by amit taneja:
heyyy i don't think i have written any thing wrong ? just asked that weather bert and kathy are busy with someother task ?? my mother do teach manners very well..
by the way i m a big fan of Kathy and berts, so thats why eagerly waiting for thier book and asked such question ?
anyways I appologies if it hurts anybody ...
[ November 06, 2006: Message edited by: amit taneja ]
Hey me not hurt...but these observations that they are slow and late might have been percieve as offence by some...anyhow I just wanted to put my point and take it in the right spirit so something interesting turns...
but from what contents bert and kathy bring out it needs lot of effort...and that can be appreciated only when you give it a try...
Since 2006, I could not find update news on writing HF EJB3 from you. Would you please let us know when can we expect HF EJB3 book. This is not fair on your side to make us wait such a long time and we are very eagerly waiting for you nice book.
Bert Bates wrote:We can't seem to write a book quickly, so we have to make sure that we pick a topic that's popular enough to warrant the time we put in - so far the verdict is still out on EJB 3.0.
I most certainly will not presume to tell you what might be worth doing for you guys. For one, EJB 3.0 books certainly have not been as well sold as books on EJB 2.x. However, I can tell you that EJB 3 in Action was well worth the effort and that Java EE is slowly but steadily gaining back traction (albeit thanks in part to JBoss Seam). And no, writing the book was not a cakewalk, but I enjoyed the process, even despite the publisher demands and expectations :-).
If it is really that critical to have an exam-specific book, I am certainly willing to try to develop some content. Do let me know either through these forums or via email: reza_rahman@lycos.com.
Best regards,
Reza
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Karnati Sudhakar wrote:
Chaminda Amarasinghe wrote:Bert Bates and Kathy,
Think about to write a book for upcoming SCJWS 5.0 exam instead of SCBCD 5.0. Or a complete book for SECA 5.0 would be a good option
chaminda has cleared SCBCD 5.0 exam with flying colours thats why he is hoping for a SCDJWS book instead of SCBCD.
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Sudhakar
Hehehe,
Good catch Sudhakar...
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I'd say that there is about a .01% chance that Kathy and/or I would update the HF EJB book...
But, you can ask over at HeadFirstLabs - they might find an author to do it!
Bert Bates wrote:We can't seem to write a book quickly, so we have to make sure that we pick a topic that's popular enough to warrant the time we put in - so far the verdict is still out on EJB 3.0.
I most certainly will not presume to tell you what might be worth doing for you guys. For one, EJB 3.0 books certainly have not been as well sold as books on EJB 2.x. However, I can tell you that EJB 3 in Action was well worth the effort and that Java EE is slowly but steadily gaining back traction (albeit thanks in part to JBoss Seam). And no, writing the book was not a cakewalk, but I enjoyed the process, even despite the publisher demands and expectations :-).
If it is really that critical to have an exam-specific book, I am certainly willing to try to develop some content. Do let me know either through these forums or via email: reza_rahman@lycos.com.
Best regards,
Reza
That sounds very promisingly. I already see Reza Rahman's name on next Head First EJB3 book .
Bert Bates wrote:I'd say that there is about a .01% chance that Kathy and/or I would update the HF EJB book...
What about if that .01% chance has a 50/50 chance to happen ?
SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD
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Hi Bert,
One of the 'In Action' series author is interested in making the HFEJB3.0 book a reality!!
I recently raised a query in Head first labs. Seems like they didn't find author. You can see the post at : http://getsatisfaction.com/oreilly/topics/headfirst_ejb3_release If they find author in a month, I think they will take AT LEAST 3 months to prepare book. The final calculation gives how much time we need to wait.
I am sorry boys , though it hurts we may not expect it for more couple of months
The EJB 3.0 book scene is already full - there are plenty of books and some of them are really good, they was enough reviewed, they have good errata, in short they go mature. In this circumstances I don't know if a new book will bring to much.
On the other side the ejb 3.1 is coming - here are not so many books so I'll be even more happy if I can read a Head first for EJB 3.1. This is true will take a while until 3.1 will break through but this only give the "Head First" team a chance to prepare a better book.
I don't want to be wrong juged - I am not against Head First books, I read plenty of and I will still read them - this is only my opinion like "Head First" reader
I only hope that after my remark Bert Bates will still answer my posts .
I'm going to go out on a limb here and make some wild exaggerations
Please, please, please understand that I understand that there are exceptions to everything I'm about to say!
First off, tech book sales are lower than they used to be.
Second, HF books take longer to write than most other tech books.
In many cases other tech book authors choose to write a book because it won't take that long, and they think that benefits other than direct book sales royalties will make the book writing process worth it. (For instance being a published author can help a consulting career.)
In the case of HF books, we need to feel confident that a particular topic is popular enough to spend the extra time to create the book - based solely on sales.
hth,
Bert
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Bert,
If the publisher is interested, I would indeed seriously consider writing a HF EJB 3.0 book. Please do feel free to forward my email if it will help.
Best regards,
Reza
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Hi Reza,
If you're interested please send me an email!
Thanks,
Bert
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Sounds great, cheers guys
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finally....
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That's great... And that's what we need, thanks both of you guys (Reza & Bert)
Don't start celebrating too soon! I just want to get Reza in touch with O'Reilly. There would still be a lot of hurdles to clear even for Reza to just get started on the book.
If anything does get started we will let you ranchers know first!
hth,
Bert
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Bert,
People are overjoyed just by thought that someone is going to cook a delicious porridge (SCBCD3.0 book) for them ...
Imagine the joy, when it would be served (when the book is released) to them, steaming hot!!
That is a great news...
Thank you Reza Rahman.
Thank you Bert Bates. :lol: :lol: :lol:
SCJP 1.5, SCWCD 1.4, SCBCD 5.0, next SCDJWS...
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Bert,
Bert Bates wrote:If you're interested please send me an email!
OK, I will get in touch ASAP. As Bert suggested, perhaps it is best to keep expectations reasonable. There are still many hurdles to jump through. For one, the book might target the EJB 3.1+WebBeans time-frame, not the EJB 3.0 time-frame.
Just a deviant. Kindly excuse. What do we mean here by WebBeans?
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Jothi,
I mean the new specification being developed by Gavin King of Red Hat (Seam originator) and Bob Lee of Google (Guice originator) to cover EJB 3 and JSF integration, generic depenency injection, enhanced interceptors and many other enhancements to the Java EE component development model. Although it is still not finalized, WebBeans is likely to be included in Java EE 6 in addition to EJB 3.1. If this is the case, it is very likely an updated SCBD exam will cover both these technologies. For further details, feel free to check out my article series on EJB 3.1 on TSS.
Best regards,
Reza
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ejb3.0 was around for quite some time, but we did not get the HF book on it.
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, though it hurts we may not expect it for more couple of months
