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by the way, a Chinese player just won a professional GO world champion a few days ago. if i have kid in the future, i will defintly let him play GO at early age.
By Q16, I assume you mean the "4-4 point". Correct me if I'm wrong, but you've labelled the columns "ABCDEFGHJKLMNOPQRST" (no 'I'). If that's the case...
(If your rows are labelled A-S (with an 'I' row), thus putting Q16 at a "3-4 point", then I "obviously" want the 4-4 point in the corner opposite the star point from your stone.)
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Alright- I did mean the 44 point. I'm glad I got a response, this thread was getting dangerously close to too far down the list to be resurrected. God that was an awful sentence.
Anyway, Nirensei!
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Black White ------ ----- 1. Q16 2. R4 3. D16 4. d4
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I guess if someone else wants to join black (Which they damn well should!), say so, so I don't hog up black.
For now, my only black opening, blindly forming San Ren Sei.
Black White ------ ----- 1. Q16 2. R4 3. D16 4. d4 5. K16
Well, I'd like to join in, but I'm not good enough yet to do this all in my head. I'll have to get a board or draw this out. Sorry for interupting the game. Which team should I join?
Ok, white team, here are my thoughts: If Black spends another move to capture our three stones, we should take the opportunity to play something like P4. Would that induce Black to play Q10 or R10? Maybe, but then our stone at N13 may be able to provide some support for a cut around the Q12/R12 area. If we get a chance, we'd love to play Q10 ourselves.
Maybe D10 or K4 or an attack on D16 (maybe C13?) would be bigger than P4.
Whatever, we have bigger issues than worrying about three or four stones at a time if they aren't putting any pressure on Black.
Any other thoughts? [ January 24, 2006: Message edited by: Ryan McGuire ]
Maybe Q18 were a stronger move for white? B might see a need to defend the corner with r17? If black reacts this way, w has 2 eyes with taking n19. Anyway. The stone is played. Now let give a weaker player (me) give command over the black stones, as white isn't in a very good position.
why: This sets 3 white stones at the bottom in atari (?). ... and it gives black a strong position at the bottom right.
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Well Q18 is still available if White get desparate for eyes. But I'm afraid that if White struggles to secure two eyes for that group, Black will build up strength in the R-T 9-16 area AND use the four-stone wall J-M16 to take over quite a bit of the center.
I think White has to ignore O17 and its brethren (until Black attacks) in order to either strengthen one of his/our own corners or attack one of Black's. How to do that BEST, I don't quite know.
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Originally posted by Ryan McGuire: Well Q18 is still available if White get desparate for eyes.
You are right. I missed that. My sequence appears to be a bit more confusing for the opponent, though. Well. More often than not I confuse myself more than my opponent.
Nevertheless I now prefer your version, because its opens a chance for monkey jumping in the corner (r19) [ January 24, 2006: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]
here's my thinking (this is for white, don't peek at these comments black )
this wasn't the sequence i was hoping for for white but it's still okay. Black is very thick (powerful) in the upper center of course, but white has miai (two choices) to either live or run away, so black's thickness isn't too overpowering. The other key here is that because white's group has miai, white has sente. [ January 24, 2006: Message edited by: Bert Bates ]
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Roger, you're too fast - i wanted to make the edit that it was black that i didn't want to peek
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Originally posted by Bert Bates: Roger, you're too fast - i wanted to make the edit that it was black that i didn't want to peek
I was wondering about that since it didn't make sense that you didn't want white to peek at the messages for white...lol
WAIT. F16 was missclick. [ January 25, 2006: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]
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Originally posted by Bert Bates:
here's my thinking (this is for white, don't peek at these comments black )
this wasn't the sequence i was hoping for for white but it's still okay. Black is very thick (powerful) in the upper center of course, but white has miai (two choices) to either live or run away, so black's thickness isn't too overpowering. The other key here is that because white's group has miai, white has sente.
But the whole point of having miai is that you don't have to play one way or the other now. Rather, it gives you a chance to play somewhere bigger.
Originally posted by Axel Janssen: As not much happening in this game: 26. E16
First, that's move 27.
Second, are you sure? If I recall correctly, even that doesn't absolutely secure that corner once and for all. (I think White can still live in the corner if he can win a ko.)
But you took your finger off it, so there it stays.
I think that make White at D10, the perfect extention from D4 and a pretty good approach to D16, so....
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