That's silly! Everybody knows they don't play football in Europe -- they play soccer!
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you should talk cricket here
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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill: That's silly! Everybody knows they don't play football in Europe -- they play soccer!
well football is foot+ball . i never quite understood why do americans play football with hand???
nyways i just hope chelsea lose
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football derived from England's rugby. When it got out of hand a committee was formed to add rules. From this came the line of scrimmage, quarterback, center and the forward pass. It evolved to the American style and never changed the name. Get over it. :-)
may be may be not nyways i m a european football fan and would like to discuss chances of liverpool in champions league (they will win) . they must be favs
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You just couldn't resist, could you EFH?
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I didn't know that Chelsea Clinton played rugby. She doesn't look like the type.
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I wonder if the roles of football changed from ruby to cater for fatter, bigger build so they don�t get out of breath, injured or have to actually bend down for a touchdown, which is a lot of work for someone who is 6ft 5in and 350lb
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The rules begot a natural selection for those best suited for the rules. It is all about the RULES!!!
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well liverpool lost chelsea didnt deserve to win gallas got lucky when he scored first goal and reina didnt deserve a red card seems like abramovich also bought the referee pitch at stanford bridge was pathetic and was delibrately made sub standard to suit chelsea
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Originally posted by steven gerrard: pitch at stanford bridge was pathetic and was delibrately made sub standard to suit chelsea
Didn't she graduate a while ago?
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Whatever happened to the naming rule having a user name that reflects your ACTUAL name?
I'm willing to bet that user "Steven Gerrard": a) Is not the England and Liverpool football player of that name and b) Didnt change his name to match that of his sporting idol.
In which case this is a clear violation of the rule!
BTW: I agree Chelsea do suck, but only because they are the epitome of what football is turning into - They represent everything that is killing English football. They have no commitment to developing local talent and are simply not interested in supporting the game or local communities (which is what clubs used to do) - they make use of fantastic sums of money to buy players to build a 'super-team' and then dominate the competition. This trend has grown over the last few years to the extent that the Premier League is no longer a display of talent from around the country where fans can develop strong geographical allegiances. With players routinely swapping clubs, and clubs being more and more like united nations, How can fans be expected to develop any loyalty?.
The situation is almost as silly as US NFL where teams can up sticks and move to a different city for economic reasons without giving 2 hoots about fans.... In the end people forget about supporting a team and simply go to view the sporting spectacle.. A huge element of the excitment is removed from the game 'cos the emotional investment has been removed!
FWIW: Man U, Arsenal etc etc... are not much better! - They may have a token gesture of a youth program but realistically the team is made from purchased non-local talent. Liverpool do at least have a history of developing local talent, but still 2 or 3 players in the squad does not really make it a team with any significant geogrphical basis. [ February 05, 2006: Message edited by: Adrian Wallace ]
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There are rules to the number of players from other countries a team can have, and liverpool isn't violating it. Although i agree with you, sometimes it goes too far and the only "local talent" are the people in the changing room. And liverpool doesn't have so many foreign dudes either, it's just tha t they're the guys scoring the goals, or stopping them. Nonetheless, if you need foreign talent to win, well maybe it isn't such a bad thing. Liverpool wasn't winning anything until the spaniards came on board, and they all come from different clubs in spain that didn't make them play enough or had too much "star" players for them to find a hole. In a way, football isn't very much different from "real" life, people go where they can find the best job. What I like about liverpool is that they don't play as if they were the best, probably because they're not, but after winning the champ league, they didn't get snob. They're sort of an old fashioned artisan team with not as much cash around and still with the ability to do some damage.
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Originally posted by Adrian Wallace: Whatever happened to the naming rule having a user name that reflects your ACTUAL name?
I'm willing to bet that user "Steven Gerrard": a) Is not the England and Liverpool football player of that name and b) Didnt change his name to match that of his sporting idol.
In which case this is a clear violation of the rule!
We depend on people reporting this sort of thing to us. The name wouldn't ring a bell for (almost) anyone from the U.S, so a lot of us won't have noticed this. Certainly means nothing to me.
But we also have to be realistic: if we were to outlaw the name used by every athlete on every professional sports team in the world, there would be precious few legal display names left. For example, it took me and Google a matter of seconds to find a rugby player named "Adrian Wallace."
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Originally posted by Dani Atrei: There are rules to the number of players from other countries a team can have, ...
No there arent - such rules would be a violation of European employment law! And even if there were rules governing the nationality of players - I'd like to see commitment to *local* players.
Gerrard grew up in Liverpool and dreamt as a kid of playing for Liverpool... Alan Shearer grew up in Newcastle and always dreamt of playing for Newcastle..
Why cant we have more players with this strong connection? Wayne Rooney got his start in his home town playing for Everton (the team he grew up supporting) - but now plays in Manchester and has lost that romantic 'local' connection.
How much more passion would fans and players have if the local team was primarily a team of locals? Then a fixture between Manchester and Liverpool can be a really special thing as neighbourhood rivalry kicks in. Instead we have a group X of professionals playing a group Y of professionals (where the sets X and Y are suject to massive variation) in EVERY SINGLE GAME EVER PLAYED!! Wheres the variety? Wheres the pride?
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[EFH]: The name wouldn't ring a bell for (almost) anyone from the U.S,
And not just because of the relative unpopularity of soccer/football/fubol/Fußball/calcio/whatever compared to the rest of the world. Some of us pride ourselves on remaining ignorant of the names of most sports figures from any country, including the US.
[EFH]: if we were to outlaw the name used by every athlete on every professional sports team in the world, there would be precious few legal display names left. For example, it took me and Google a matter of seconds to find a rugby player named "Adrian Wallace."
True. Although now that it's been pointed out, it's pretty easy to discover that "Steven Gerrard" is apparently quite well-known, and "Adrian Wallace" isn't. Plus our own "Steven" says he's from India and is a fan of European football, and Liverpool specifically. Which suggest it's unlikely this is someone who just happens to have the same name as a famous footballer for Liverpool.
EFH: Fixed link [ February 05, 2006: Message edited by: Ernest Friedman-Hill ]
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Originally posted by Adrian Wallace: I'm willing to bet that user "Steven Gerrard": a) Is not the England and Liverpool football player of that name and
That's a shame. I rather like the idea that a rich and successful footballer would like to dabble in some coding between matches.
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well cant 2 persons share same name its just that gerrard of liverpool and I share same name
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And yet I can't help thinking that something like "Mohit" would probably be more appropriate - just add a last name. Yeah, people do sometimes share the same name, but you're stretching my credulity too much here I think.