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RFE: do not allow HTML in messages

Bauke Scholtz
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http://www.coderanch.com/t/425698/IO-Streams/Japanese-character-not-read-or

HTML in messages should be disabled all the time and the checkbox should be removed. As BB is just supported, the whole HTML support is superfluous as well. At least I don´t see any extra benefits of supporting HTML in messages.
Ernest Friedman-Hill
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Bauke Scholtz wrote:
At least I don´t see any extra benefits of supporting HTML in messages.


Reasons to have HTML
NumberExplanation
1How about tables?


Rest assured that there are plenty of other reasons why HTML is useful. In the future, we may turn it off for some forums (our old UBB saloon allowed HTML in some, but not all, forums) and we will continue to fine tune the support.

(Isn't this an RFD -- "Request for degradation?")


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Bauke Scholtz
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If you have a good UBB library fully under control, you could extend it with [table] tags and so on.
paul wheaton
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As geeks, we generally have a lot of the HTML stuff memorized. While creating substitutes with BB codes will work, it does require memorizing more stuff.

HTML will be around in these forums for quite a while yet. It makes me happy. The trick is to find a path so that others can be happy too.





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Bauke Scholtz
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Isn´t HTML by default disabled yet? It unneccessarily leads to topics such as http://www.coderanch.com/t/429759/JSP/java/use-hasnest-method-inside-cforeach
Jeanne Boyarsky
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Bauke Scholtz wrote:Isn´t HTML by default disabled yet?

Yet? I don't see anything that signifies a promise to do this ever; let alone by some point in time.


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Bauke Scholtz
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We should not assume that the newcomers already know that HTML is by default enabled and we should never assume that they already are familiar with code blocks. I would just disable HTML by default so that one who actually want to use HTML (and thus is fully aware about the possibilities of the forum) just can enable it. I've read countless messages and posted many replies, but I haven't seen or posted any reply where HTML is used effectively. But I have seen more than enough messages which got garbled because one "accidently" posted HTML in it.
Christophe Verré
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But I have seen more than enough messages which got garbled because one "accidently" posted HTML in it.

Talking about garbled characters, it would be time to fix your signature ;)


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Bauke Scholtz
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:P

Talking about that, it look like that the forum's registration form doesn't handle the charset correctly. I've seen users been registered where for example the î is been replaced by the well known square with the question mark in it. Though some usernames got fixed automagically behind the scenes. But OK, that's another story.
Ulf Dittmer
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Bauke Scholtz wrote:I would just disable HTML by default

Opinion noted. I doubt we'll go that far; Ernest has already mentioned what steps we may take in the future.

I've read countless messages and posted many replies, but I haven't seen or posted any reply where HTML is used effectively.

As Ernest said, they exist. It's possible that you haven't encountered them.

Though some usernames got fixed automagically behind the scenes.

Not sure what you mean by "automagically" - users were asked to fix their profiles.
 
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