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Reservations into private sector

Rakesh Joshi
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What do you say about reservations into private sector..


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MInu
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Reservation kills merit . . . . . .


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S Venkatesh
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whats the reason they want to implement it?
ankur rathi
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ET has opened a debate on "Is Premji right to go against job quotas in

Wipro?"



As expected most of the posts agree with him...

here is someone who put his pt in a v diff way.. )



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I think we should have job reservations in all the fields. I completely

support the PM and all the politicians for promoting this. Let's start the

reservation with our cricket team. We should have 10 percent reservation

for muslims. 30 percent for OBC, SC/ST like that. Cricket rules should be

modified accordingly. The boundary circle should be reduced for an SC/ST

player. The four hit by an OBC player should be considered as a six and a

six hit by a OBC player should be counted as 8 runs. An OBC player scoring

60 runs should be declared as a century.



We should influence ICC and make rules so that the pace bowlers like Shoaib

Akhtar should not bowl fast balls to our OBC player. Bowlers should bowl

maximum speed of 80 kilometer per hour to an OBC player. Any delivery above

this speed should be made illegal.



Also we should have reservation in Olympics. In the 100 meters race, an OBC

player should be given a gold medal if he runs 80 meters.



There can be reservation in Government jobs also. Let's recruit SC/ST and

OBC pilots for aircrafts which are carrying the ministers and

politicians (that can really help the country.. )



Ensure that only SC/ST and OBC doctors do the operations for the ministers

and other politicians. (Another way of saving the country..)



Let's be creative and think of ways and means to guide INDIA forward...

Let's show the world that INDIA is a GREAT country. Let's be proud of being

an INDIAN..



May the good breed of politicans like ARJUN SINGH long live...

Arjunkumar Shastry
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This same breed of politicians when admitted to hospitals always confirm the cast of doctors/surgeons before getting operated.
The same people always get their daighters/sons married to daughters/sons of same cast politicians.
Mandal II era might start again if Govt. tries to enfore this policy.I am sure this is not the brainchild of Manmohan Singh.


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Pradeep bhatt
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Originally posted by Venkatesh Sai:
whats the reason they want to implement it?


VOTES


Groovy
Anjali S Sharma
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Initially Manmohan Singh did look like a intelligent and honest person but I am shocked to know he is no better than any other sick politician in the country. I really wonder how can anyone be such a big idiot to even think of reservation in private sector.
Arjunkumar Shastry
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Manmohan is neither a mass leader nor expert in rabble-rousing.So like any other decision this decision must be a combined work of our mass leaders,their 'think tanks' and wellwishers.
There are many ways to getway if Govt tries to enforce this in private sector.Suppose I am a owner of firm X.and I get a deree from govt .I can get away with the following
1)I publish the requirements,saying that I need 50% of people from community X.
2)I get alot of applications.
3)I call everybody including people from community X.
4)As Govt doesn't say how the selection should be,I place a stringent criteria making sure that people who are not qualified will get rejected.So whether person is from X or not if not qualified will be rejected.
5)If every applicant from community X is not qualified,that lot will be rejected.
6)I inform the Govt. that I am very much interested in hiring people from community X,but not getting enough qualified candidates.
Arjunkumar Shastry
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Don't get so depressed,when parliament passes any bill,it makes sure that there are loop holes to getway with.
[ April 24, 2006: Message edited by: Arjunkumar Shastry ]
Zip Ped
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Seems to me that Manmohan Singh is just a congress puppet and Sonia Gandhi is the one who's actually controlling the whole show. Its just a political move to get the votes from the backward classes.
Pradeep bhatt
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Govt is giving tax concessions to companies which will implement reservations. Companies are really happy about this.
S Venkatesh
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Originally posted by Pradip bp:


VOTES


oh! thats really BAD!!! how the hell can they do it!!
Ramesh Choudhary
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I'm comfortable with Reservations(upto 50%) in Educational Institutions, which does not make any difference, as almost all of them(Institutions) are rabble.

But meddling with private sector, in the name of justice, is naive and stupid.
Anjali S Sharma
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Originally posted by Arjunkumar Shastry:

6)I inform the Govt. that I am very much interested in hiring people from community X,but not getting enough qualified candidates.


If it becomes a law you have to hire people of a particular community whether they are qualified or not. There were so many instances of people becoming doctors after scoring negative marks in their medical entrance exams just because the law said they had to be hired.
[ April 25, 2006: Message edited by: Anjali S Sharma ]
Pradeep bhatt
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Originally posted by Venkatesh Sai:


oh! thats really BAD!!! how the hell can they do it!!


Are you new to India that you dont know this ?
S Venkatesh
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Originally posted by Pradip bp:


Are you new to India that you dont know this ?


I am new to understanding indian politics
Arjunkumar Shastry
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Originally posted by Anjali S Sharma:

If it becomes a law you have to hire people of a particular community whether they are qualified or not. There were so many instances of people becoming doctors after scoring negative marks in their medical entrance exams just because the law said they had to be hired.
[ April 25, 2006: Message edited by: Anjali S Sharma ]

I think thats applicable to Govt hospitals.Is it mandatory for private hospitals to hire the doctors based on quota?
I don't think govt can comeup with a scheme to keep a watch on count of people of specific community hired in each and every private company in a country.Thats impossible.Govt. fails even to collect the tax from these organizations let alone to keep watch on hiring!!.
Also Govt doesn't say anything about firing strategy.I can hire 80% of employees from community X,inform govt that I have hired them(so I need tax rebate!!) and then fire all of them to inform govt that they are not upto the mark.Its impossible to enforce this quota bill.It works in Govt organizations because Govt has full control over them and it won't mind making them loss making.
Sandeep Ghosh
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I don�t know why Mandal fire only engulfs my favourite politicians (and they are few). First it burnt V P Singh, now ManMohan Singh is waiting to be burnt. Every time I think how good was V P Singh, immediately image of police firing on anti-Mandal protesters in Delhi comes up and my mood gets changes. Why politician will never learn from history.
Frank Silbermann
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Reservations mean you have to give certain people job titles and salary; it doesn't require you to actually get work out of them. Think of it as a kind of business tax, like when Tony Soprano demands that a builder provide eight "construction jobs" for his friends to avert a labor strike (and worse).
vamsikrishna vajjah
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Reservations are an vote bank politics.In my view it is better to provide reservations for economically backward class in every caste.
Mohammad Ibrahim
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My dad had served as a Central Govt. employee for 32 years without a promotion, he had done his diploma in Civil in those days..
The dept is giving promotions to ppl from backward classes, although my dad's name is in the top in seniority list..
Pradeep bhatt
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Rakesh Joshi
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Originally posted by vamsikrishna vajjah:
Reservations are an vote bank politics.In my view it is better to provide reservations for economically backward class in every caste.



Correct Vamsi....

I also think that from the childhood students should be given fee concession ..Not Reservations like this.


 
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