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Happy Europe Day!

Jeff Albertson
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Today (May 9th) is Europe Day, so I extend my greetings to all our forum members in Europe!


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Dave Lenton
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Cheers.

Despite living in Europe, I had never heard of Europe day until about half an hour ago when I read about it on (the non-European website) Wikipedia. Wow, some day. Why aren't we celebrating it more? Should I have spent all day swilling Grolsch, eating frogs legs, yodelling and wearing lederhosen? Perhaps I could do that anyway......


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Jeff Albertson
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Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
wearing lederhosen? Perhaps I could do that anyway......


I usually try to talk people out of wearing lederhosen, but if it's a choice between that and invading the Sudetenland...
Dave Lenton
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Originally posted by Jeff Albertson:
I usually try to talk people out of wearing lederhosen, but if it's a choice between that and invading the Sudetenland...
Aha, you've discovered Europe's secrets which we try not to talk about. All those thousands of years of wars haven't been about piffling things like territory or religion, its been about the struggle over crimes of fashion. The last centaury, for example, was a struggle between the Lederhosenites and the Pin Stripers.
Ulf Dittmer
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Yeah, well, territory, religion, fashion, whatever. The real struggle is always between people drinking Grolsch and those preferring something tasty. If Gengis Khan had had access to Becks, the shape of modern Europe might be very different. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


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Jeroen T Wenting
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Many Europeans (including me) would rather there was a whole lot less EU intrusion in their lifes and countries, so we aren't inclined to "celebrate European unity" or whatever it's supposed to be all about.

I'd vote for almost any politician who seriously promises to leave the EU and could be trusted to keep that promise.
Many Europeans feel the same way, we consider the whole thing a massive waste of time and a signing over of our national sovereignty to a few powerful nations who traditionally have been our enemies and overlords.


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Jeff Albertson
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Originally posted by Ulf Dittmer:
Yeah, well, territory, religion, fashion, whatever. The real struggle is always between people drinking Grolsch and those preferring something tasty. If Gengis Khan had had access to Becks, the shape of modern Europe might be very different. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


I think you're on to something here. Why else invade Belgium if not for the Lambics (okay, and some frites). And let me add a shout out here for Tintin, because I read a bit every night to ny kids -- mille millions de mille sabords!
Jeroen T Wenting
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Belgium exists mainly as a buffer between the Netherlands and France.
That's why the country was created after the fall of Napoleon, and it still serves in that role rather nicely.

They do make some excellent chocolate though, good enough that in 1919 the Dutch government was close to launching a fullscale invasion in order to get their hands on the chocolate factories (and possibly some breweries as well).
Guy Allard
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Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
... The last centaury, for example, was a struggle between the Lederhosenites and the Pin Stripers.


OK.
Who won?
Jeroen T Wenting
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both lost to the Levis, they were too busy fighting each other to notice the arrival of a new kid on the block.
Dave Lenton
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Incidentally, has anyone noticed that despite claiming that they are the most stylish people on the planet, the French, Spanish and Italians are all wearing clothes which went out of fashion in the UK about ten years ago? Its the same with their music - the kind of euro-pop which is popular is southern Europe was popular in the UK in the early nineties, and has since then been rightly consigned to the dustbin of music history.

Maybe this is the next wave of the fashion wars. The southerners are attempting to bring about a counter-revolution and bring back multi-coloured backpacks, pink trousers, large spikey hair, and huge patterned orange jumpers. <shudder>
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Jeroen T Wenting
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isn't it mostly "artists" claiming southern european heritage who claim they're "stylish"?
The locals there seem more pragmatic, a fresh attitude compared to the northern/central European (and American) attitude which requires the latest fashion all the time (and thus replacing everything every few months) or you're branded as an outcast.
Dave Lenton
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Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
isn't it mostly "artists" claiming southern european heritage who claim they're "stylish"?
Hard to say. Its not uncommon to hear places like Paris, Milan and Madrid being described by people from there as being the "fashion capital of Europe" though, despite the tendency of people there to be wearing clothes considered old fashioned elsewhere.

To be honest I couldn't give a monkey's what is fashionable or not, its just strange to hear people describing themselves as being at the cutting edge of fashion while at the same time copying what was fashionable elsewhere some time ago.

The locals there seem more pragmatic, a fresh attitude compared to the northern/central European (and American) attitude which requires the latest fashion all the time (and thus replacing everything every few months) or you're branded as an outcast.
And yet they all seem to be wearing the same stuff. They are still as much fashion victims.

Mind you, I'm speaking as someone who is largely lacking in the fashion stakes, although I'm probably a typical programmer in that respect
Jeroen T Wenting
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so am I. As long as it's black and comfortable I'll wear it.
No problems that way matching colours or keeping track of what's fashionable
Dave Lenton
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Indeed. I also have the philosophy that clothes don't really need to be replaced until they have twice as many holes as they started off with. Even then perhaps not - the holes can be good ventilation after all

Fortunately the company I work for do not require me to be smart.....
 
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