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Kalyan Anand
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Recently I received a requirement for an opening that needs 6 to 9 years of experience. They say they need a person who is expert in ALL the below mentioned technologies. I again checked with them if it were a mistake. They emphasized that it was Expert in ALL.

Java 1.4 , 1.5 , 1.6 - API, Class Loading, Multi Threading, Memory Model, Serialization and Externalization,Cloning, Comparator, Comparable Security, Optimizations, Features and enhancements, Synchronization and thread-safety, JVM, Collections, Design Patterns, JDBC 3.0 and 4.0, Oracle SQL , PL/SQL, Query Optimization , XML, DOM , SAX , XSD, XSLT, JAXP JAXB, OBIEE, ODI, OWB, BPEL, OA Framework, Design Patterns , EJB 2.0 and 3.0 , OC4J, CSS, HTML, XHTML, DHTML, PHP, AJAX , Servlets, JSP, JSF , ADF , RMI, CORBA , SOA & Web Services , Struts , Hibernate , UML , AOP , Ruby on Rails and he/she must also be very good at algorithms, data structures.


1. Is it possible to be expert in all these and remember them ?
2. How good are the changes that a person might have worked in all these technologies ?
3. If some one has his basics in most of them and wants to be expert at all these how much time it might take ?
Andrew Monkhouse
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Hmmm, I wonder if they missed a requirement - "and be a 45 year old balding man by the name of Bill".
Bear Bibeault
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... or condensed down into "must be a consummate liar".

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Rambo Prasad
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I have been receiving mails from H1b consultants and some of these mails require people with odd combinations
Some examples
1.J2ee experience with blue martini and cobol experience
2.J2ee with Tuxedo and WTC experience..

May be during recession time companies want people who are master of everything..But I think they will get at best jack of everything type folks or liars

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Bear Bibeault
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I never program in a tuxedo -- limits too much oxygen to the brain and it's hard to sit down in a cummerbund. And I can't stand gin so the martini is out, blue or otherwise!
Balu Sadhasivam
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I guess they are in need of book seller
Henry Wong
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Rambo Prasad wrote:I have been receiving mails from H1b consultants and some of these mails require people with odd combinations

2.J2ee with Tuxedo and WTC experience..


This is actually *not* a odd combination. I agree that Tuxedo is a very old transaction server, but (1) it was very popular in its day, and there are still many large companies using it in production... and (2) Tuxedo was bought and made into an application server, by BEA, before they acquire the Java application server. Tuxedo services are still part of the BEA application server -- which can be accessed via the Weblogic Tuxedo Connector.

This is a rare combination (not to mention that WTC is now deprecated), but not an odd combination.

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Gabriel Claramunt
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It's a common mistake: confusing what one "needs" with what one "wants". I "need" a million dollars, I "need" a sports car... but ain't going to happen soon
And if you really find an expert on all those areas, he can easily ask for a salary of equivalent to 5 times the salary of an expert on one of those areas and still be a bargain. If they really need it, they will pay it (in US, he should ask around $500000 a year). If they're not willing to pay they don't really need it.

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Kalyan Anand
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Agree with Rambo. The problem is that the companies and consultants dont realize that people wouldnt have worked on all those...
Here is one more requirement from a reputed firm. A lot and lot of details undermines the necessary skills needed for the position.
With this kind of requirements I feel that either the recruiters are doing a bad job in filling the criteria or the software professionals dont have good exposure. If the requirement is clear they need not dilute the job advertisement.
harilal ithikkat
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May be they were looking for a person who is a lier.........


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By the time they find someone, recession will be over. Unless they find a liar.


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That job posting actually fits pretty close to my career. CORBA is a little before my time and I haven't written BI before... and I wouldn't necessary call myself an expert in everything else, but I'm sure I could answer just about any technical interview questions that they'd throw at me.

I think they probably got sick of unqualified people applying and decided that raising the bar on requirements might raise the average quality of applicant.


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