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MS is peeping from Windows

S Venkatesh
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If your computer runs on Microsoft Windows XP, watch out! Starting Thursday, Microsoft will be checking on you and letting you know if you're in the wrong.

source:
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/beware-ms-is-peeping-from-windows/11958-11.html

well now if you are running pirated copies of windows XP you will be caught
Chetan Parekh
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Don’t worry. Microsoft will have bugs in this system too


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Jeroen T Wenting
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About time Microsoft started getting proactive in dealing with pirates.
Each pirate increases the price I have to pay for my software (by taking up time and other resources from Microsoft in dealing with them, providing them with product updates, etc.).

As a fully legitimate user (and having been thus for something like 15 years now) I've nothing to fear.


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Sonny Gill
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Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
About time Microsoft started getting proactive in dealing with pirates.


I wish they had started doing it earlier.
If they did, Linux on desktop would be heaps better today
Just imagine all those millions of users in third world countries who would be using Linux today, cuz there is no way in hell they could afford to pay for Windows!
Chetan Parekh
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Originally posted by Sonny Gill:


I wish they had started doing it earlier.
If they did, Linux on desktop would be heaps better today
Just imagine all those millions of users in third world countries who would be using Linux today, cuz there is no way in hell they could afford to pay for Windows!


Very true. Not taking action against piracy is also tactics to gain market share.
Jeroen T Wenting
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if there were no rampant piracy prices would be a lot lower... Then those people (who already get lower prices from Microsoft and a lot of donations from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) would be able to pay for that software...
Greg Charles
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If Microsoft priced Windows based on its cost to produce it spread out over the number of copies it sells, then you would be right. Eliminating piracy would reduce its retail price. However, that's clearly not the case. Microsoft prices Windows in order to maximize its profit. It's not clear to me that they would lower the retail price, even if the entire Third World suddenly started paying for their copies.
Sonny Gill
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Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
if there were no rampant piracy prices would be a lot lower... Then those people (who already get lower prices from Microsoft and a lot of donations from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation) would be able to pay for that software...


Ok, that would take care of the few hundred computers used by India Aids Initiative office.

But seriously Jeroen, I doubt that your copy of Windows cost what it does, because of software piracy. If anything, it is the prices of genuine software in the third world countries that will be lowered if there was no piracy. That is where Microsoft can gain more users by lowering its prices.
Jeroen T Wenting
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Maybe not Windows, but a lot of other software.
I do some work for game companies producing addons for MS Flightsim. Over a third of the purchase price of many of those products exists (due to the low price of these products and the high threat of piracy) of the cost of protecting against (and recovering lost income due to) piracy.
If there were no piracy a $40 product (which is a typical price) could therefore be sold at $30 with an increase in profit for the manufacturer AND a 25% lower price for the consumer.
The higher sales that would yield might mean they can lower the price even further to maybe $20-25 and still have the same income they have now.

On Windows and similarly priced products the effect would be less as the cost of implementing similar features for those would not be proportionally higher, but maybe a 10% drop in price would be possible there as well.
Anupam Sinha
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High prices for a SW can not justify pircacy.
Sonny Gill
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Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
Maybe not Windows, but a lot of other software.

Fair enough

@Anupam
Definitely. We are just engaging in a little nit-picking to keep us alert
Dave Lenton
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I can't really see this being a workable strategy from MS. A lot of people will do what I did, and not install the update. I didn't install it because I have a legal version, and don't want to waste disk space on something pointless, but people with pirate software can just as easily choose to avoid its effect.

Its also likely that within a couple of days there'll be a hack on the 'net somewhere which will stop it working. Also, this being a programme made by MS, something will go wrong and there'll be a whole load of people with legitimate copies who get told they haven't.


There will be glitches in my transition from being a saloon bar sage to a world statesman. - Tony Banks
Jeroen T Wenting
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nothing can justify piracy, except a royal writ as presented to privateers to harass the Spanish gold fleets in the Caribbean by Dutch and British kings in the past.
That was war however, and these men were pirates only to their enemies. To their home nation they had status equivalent to navy admirals except they were not paid, earning their income (and that of their crew) from the loot they gained when attacking the enemies of their patrons.
 
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