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Determine the geek context of the following sequences:

16309

CPE1704TKS

TK421

CSM-101

One-One-A. One-One-A-Two-B. One-B-Two-B-Three. Zero-Zero-Zero-Destruct-Zero.

42

1-2-3-4-5

1-7-3-4-6-7-3-2-1-4-7-6-Charlie-3-2-7-8-9-7-7-7-6-4-3-Tango-7-3-2-Victor-7-3-1-1-7-8-8-8-7-3-2-4-7-6-7-8-9-7-6-4-3-7-6-Lock

LV-426

Type 40

01/12/1997


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"One-One-A. One-One-A-Two-B. One-B-Two-B-Three. Zero-Zero-Zero-Destruct-Zero." is part of the verbal command required for the U.S.S. Enterprise to self-destruct.


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[fred]: 01/12/1997

I'd argue that for this one, the movie outranks the book, and it should be 01/12/1992. Still at Urbana, Illinois however. This one, LV-426, TK421, 42, and one-one-A etc jumped out at me. The others... dunno yet.
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All right, with a bit of research I tracked down the other references, except for 1-2-3-4-5. (Ever try to Google that one?) In retrospect I'm a bit ashamed I didn't recognize CSM-101 (though to be fair, I was less than a year old at the time). And the longest one, 1-7-3-etc, did sound kind of familiar. If I'd thought longer I probably should have gotten that. The scene was memorable even if the specific code wasn't.

Anyway, for fun I've come up with some more references to identify. I should warn you that these cast a somewhat wider net than Fred's original list; they're not limited to science fiction. Though neither was Fred's list, strictly speaking. Several of these would've been completely at home on Fred's list, while most others should be, ummm, comparably recognizable. Though a few may be from left field, so to speak. Enjoy...

1138
TMA-1
24601
Σ957
14159265
3-2-1-let's jam!
C-57D
742
30127
1701
08/29/1997
2187
9906753
271828
AE-35
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i guess i should have said that i didn't make up this list, i just copied it from somewhere else.

here's a hint for 1-2-3-4-5

So the combination is one, two, three, four, five? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life! The kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!
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Hail Skroob!

A type 40 is an older model Chinese main battle tank, but I guess you're looking for another meaning?


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1138 is the first lucas movie THX-1138

24601 is ValJeans's (sp?) prison number in Les Miserables

1701 is the number on the Enterprise NCC-1701<various letters as each was destoyed/rebuilt>

is 8/29/97 when skynet went live? or became self-aware?

those are off the top of my head... i'll try for more later
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Originally posted by fred rosenberger:
1138 is the first lucas movie THX-1138...

If I'm not mistaken, the book adaptation of a slightly more successful Lucas film used "THX 1138" in place of the film's "TK421."

The original version of THX was a masterpiece, while the "enhanced" version currently available on DVD is an abomination.

(Do I get "3 points" for recognizing "14159265"?)
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Ah, I see. Hail Skroob!

[Jeroen]: A type 40 is an older model Chinese main battle tank, but I guess you're looking for another meaning?

There is... another.

To be fair, I didn't know this one. But there are many on the planet who would probably regard this as more obvious than many of the others listed. It's definitely a science fiction reference, if that helps.

Fred, good job so far. 08/29/97 is at least when Skynet became self-aware and launched a nuclear strike, according to the first two movies. By the third movie of course, the timeline had been revised. I'm not sure exactly when Skynet went online, except to say that it was presumably no later than 08/29/97.

Marc, good calls on both your points as well. In fact the memory of the book had inhibiting my own ability to recognize TK421. Now that you point out the discrepancy, I'm sure you're right. Thanks.
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[marc]: The original version of THX was a masterpiece, while the "enhanced" version currently available on DVD is an abomination.

Uh huh. You're referring, of course, to the extensive modifications and extended/reshot scenes present in the 1969 version, compared to the original 15-minute student film from 1967?
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THX1138 was in fact George Lucas' zip code where he lived as a student...

742 is the ICAO aircraft type identifier for the Boeing 747-200 for flightplanning and reporting purposes.

42 is of course the ultimate answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
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THX1138 was in fact George Lucas' zip code where he lived as a student...


There is no such zip code in the US, all US zipcodes are 5 digits, sometimes plus 4. So THX1138 could not be anyone's zip code in the US. And also the Zip codes at USC are around 90007, not even can go up to the 1138 as the last four digits range range. Fight On!

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"01/12/1997"

My 31st birthday? Why is that important?

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[Jeroen]: THX1138 was in fact George Lucas' zip code where he lived as a student...

I read that it was his phone number, which is plausible for the time period given its length and structure.

Your answer for 742 isn't what I was thinking of, but it's probably just as legitimate.

[Mark S]: My 31st birthday? Why is that important?

It's not. But your 26th birthday... was also the first (zeroth?) birthday for another.
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
[marc]: The original version of THX was a masterpiece, while the "enhanced" version currently available on DVD is an abomination.

Uh huh. You're referring, of course, to the extensive modifications and extended/reshot scenes present in the 1969 version, compared to the original 15-minute student film from 1967?

Actually, I think both of those -- the short student version (Electronic Labyrinth THX 1138 4EB) and the original feature-length release -- were brilliant. The abomination is the 2004 director's cut of the feature, which Lucas "enhanced" with ridiculous computer animation that only distracted and detracted from the original.

Fortunately, Electric Labyrinth is available (still intact) as an extra on the 2-disc DVD version of the director's cut, and also on a compilation of short films called "Short 10: Chaos." However, the original feature-length cut is not commercially available on DVD.

In my opinion, if Lucas wants to release messed up versions of his films, that's his business. BUT the originals are cornerstones of American film, and should be respected as historical works. Instead of being replaced by new versions, the originals should continue to be available alongside the new versions.

PS: I'm a little embarrassed to have read the paperback adaptation of Star Wars, but hey... I was 13 at the time.
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Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
THX1138 was in fact George Lucas' zip code where he lived as a student...

42 is of course the ultimate answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.

THX 1138 was (reportedly) one of Lucas's phone numbers: 849-1138.

42 is my age. Many people (including my cat, who is a person) contend that this makes me the ultimate answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe, and Everything. I neither confirm nor deny this.
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how can you know your cat is real? Maybe you're only imagining him.
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Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
how can you know your cat is real? Maybe you're only imagining him.

Indeed, that's what my doctors keep telling me. I can only say he is real within the context of my own "reality," where he exists as a person.
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Originally posted by Mark Spritzler:
There is no such zip code in the US, all US zipcodes are 5 digits, sometimes plus 4. So THX1138 could not be anyone's zip code in the US.
However 01138 is the zip code for Springfield, Massachusetts. (Home of the Simpsons?) No idea whether this is relevant to Lucas -- probably not.
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Originally posted by marc weber:
...Instead of being replaced by new versions, the originals should continue to be available alongside the new versions...

Interestingly, I just found out that Star Wars episodes 4, 5, and 6 are being re-released in September on DVD. This time around, they will each be available separately as 2-disc editions, and the second disc of each set will include the original (non-CGI "enhanced") cuts of the films. I hope THX 1138 eventually gets similar treatment.

(Geek note: Here, CGI means Computer-Generated Imagery -- not Common Gateway Interface.)
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To get this rolling again... LV-426 is the planet from Alien and Aliens that fell victim to a nasty xenomorph infestation.

So far no one seems to have identified:

16309
CPE1704TKS
CSM-101
1-7-3-4-6-7-3-2-1-4-7-6-Charlie-3-2-7-8-9-7-7-7-6-4-3-Tango-7-3-2-Victor-7-3-1-1-7-8-8-8-7-3-2-4-7-6-7-8-9-7-6-4-3-7-6-Lock
Type 40

(I cheated and was able to find them online, but want to leave them as a challenge for others who may recognize more of these from memory.)

And from my list, still unrecognized are:

TMA-1
Σ957
3-2-1-let's jam!
C-57D
742
30127
2187
9906753
271828
AE-35

I'd still like to think someone will recognize more of these...
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I identified 742, though probably again to a different explanation than you were looking for

C-57 (I had to look it up) is a certification/license for well drilling.
It's also (that too I had to look up) a fictional starship from a 1950s SciFi movie. It used to be offered as a model kit, but that's been discontinued a few years ago.

The TMA series is (with some soul searching) a line of Soviet space capsules adapted from the old Soyuz module to service the ISS.
It is also a Lebanese cargo airline, which used to be famous for its garish green and yellow aircraft.
TMA-1 (and I had to look that up) is an open university course named "capable manager".

AE-35 was a US Navy fleet ammunition supply ship from the Kilauea class called USS Kiska (yes, I had to check Janes Fighting Ships) which is no longer in service.

9906753 is important enough for some people that it causes search engines to spider this thread...
Conspiracy theories about the number seem to abound, but strangely it doesn't seem to map to a USAF aircraft serial (though it has the correct format).

I don't know what's so special about a US zip code from Georgia (30127)
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Hm. You're looking too much in the real world here, Jeroen. Though you've done an impressive job finding interesting references quite different from those intended. Perhaps this is a bit like a Rorschach test? Fred's original list was almost entirely references from science fiction - mostly movies, and a few well-known TV series. Plus one real-world spacecraft. My list still has quite a few scince fiction movies, a couple SF TV series, and a few more varied things. I included two real-world math constants, Jean ValJean's prisoner number, one non-SF adventure movie that was probably seen by almost everyone who recognizes the Star Wars and Star Trek references given so far, one very popular non-SF US TV show, and, um, one Andrew Lloyd Webber musical. That last is a bit of a stretch to expect anyone to recognize it, but Fred got the Les Miserables reference after all; I figured there was an outside chance someone would know the ALW reference too. (Yes, I'm aware that Les Miserables was a book long before it was a musical.)

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TMA-1: well the answer Jeroen found was pretty cool. The anwer I was looking for is fictional, but also pretty cool, IMO. Minor hint: the T is for Tycho.

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742: to be fair, the answer I'm looking for is probably better known in the US & Canada (& the UK & Australia, and probably more), so Jeroen probably shouldn't waste time on it. On the other hand, Jeff Albertson (if he's reading this) really should know this one.

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C-57D: I was thinking of the science fiction reference, Jeroen. Yo, Bear Bibeault! You have praised this one publicly! Where are ya, man? There's another reference on this list that I have you to thank for, because I only checked it out based on your recommendation. If you don't get it, who will?

--

AE-35: Not a real-world ship. It's... ummm... part of a ship though...

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Σ957: I obfuscated this a bit - unnecessarily, it seems. Every time I've ever seen this in print or online, the Σ was written out as Sigma. But, y'know, real geeks should be able to translate that, right?

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[Jeroen]: 9906753 is important enough for some people that it causes search engines to spider this thread...

Heh. Cool.

Conspiracy theories about the number seem to abound, but strangely it doesn't seem to map to a USAF aircraft serial (though it has the correct format).

Well it's not an aircraft, and the USAF didn't quite exist at the time. Though it woudn't surprise me at all if the USAF had gained custody of this eventually. The Army had it last, as far as we know.

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[Jeroen]: I don't know what's so special about a US zip code from Georgia (30127)

Yeah, I'll go ahead and pull this one; it's not a good geek reference, and too obscure. It's from the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical Evita, from "And the Money Kept Rolling In" - it's the number for the Swiss bank account the Perons use for all their ill-gotten gains. Sorry. I promise, the remaining references are much more suitable for a science fiction geek audience.

Here's a replacement reference (unrelated to Evita) for people to identify: 27B/6. Go.
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TMA-1, Tycho Magnetic Anomoly 1, the monolith found on the moon in 2001: A Space Odyssey

AE-35, a unit on the directional antenna to Earth on the spaceship Discovery, sabotaged by HAL

C57-D, spaceship in Forbidden Planet


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3-2-1-let's jam!


From the opening to Cowboy Bebop: a song named Tank!
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Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
TMA-1, Tycho Magnetic Anomoly 1, the monolith found on the moon in 2001: A Space Odyssey...

I thought TMA-1 was from 2001, but I couldn't quite place it. I was thinking it was that Pan Am space shuttle or something.
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Excellent. I knew I could count on Bear for the Cowboy Bebop and Forbidden Planet references at least. The 2001 stuff was a nice bonus, but not surprising. I haven't mentioned it to Bear yet, but it's entirely his fault that I got into Cowboy Bebop. I've noticed previously that Bear's taste in science fiction is impeccable (which is to say, it matches mine) so when Bear gave a big thumbs-up to Cowboy Bebop here, I immediately put it on my Netflix queue. Still one DVD to go, which should be released this week. Anyway, thanks, Bear. The series has been a lot of fun.

For those unfamiliar with it, the Bebop theme can be heard here. That's the version from the show, though it cuts off prematurely. There's also a great live extended version here. The only catch is, the 3-2-1 part doesn't come out right in that version. But what other science fiction shows have such a great jazz soundtrack? Heck, what other shows of any kind? To be fair, the show is also great for reasons having nothing to do with the soundtrack. But this was the thing that came to mind when I was thinking of items for this quiz. What can I say - I was trying to think of sequences of numbers and letters and the like, and I was watching the DVD of Cowboy Bebop Remix 5, and 3-2-1 seemed to qualify.

And also thanks, Bear, for getting the remaining 2001 references. I shudder to think that I could say something like "I can tell you're upset about this, Dave" in a roomful of programmers, and be met with a sea of blank stares. Education needs to focus more on the classics, dammit!

For anyone wondering: TMA-1

Still to go: Where do these come from?

16309
CPE1704TKS
CSM-101
1-7-3-4-6-7-3-2-1-4-7-6-Charlie-3-2-7-8-9-7-7-7-6-4-3-Tango-7-3-2-Victor-7-3-1-1-7-8-8-8-7-3-2-4-7-6-7-8-9-7-6-4-3-7-6-Lock
Type 40
Sigma 957
742
2187
9906753
271828
27B/6

On we go...
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CPE1704TKS

Was this the code that the computer Joshua used to launch the missles in the movie War Games
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Isn't 2187 the title of the last volume of the series started by 2001?
The sequel was 2010, and there was a third that was NOT called 2100.
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There was a 2061, then a 3001.
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Another recommendation for the Netflix queue is Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex.

A bit more violent, but quite thought-provoking.
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Originally posted by Bob Reardon:
CPE1704TKS

Was this the code that the computer Joshua used to launch the missles in the movie War Games


i believe the computer was called "WOPR", and Joshua was the account/backdoor login id. but yes, you are correct on this one.
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742... not sure on this one, but does it relate to Evergreen Terrace?
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1-7-3-4-6-7-3-2-1-4-7-6-Charlie-3-2-7-8-9-7-7-7-6-4-3-Tango-7-3-2-Victor-7-3-1-1-7-8-8-8-7-3-2-4-7-6-7-8-9-7-6-4-3-7-6-Lock

Is this sequence from the movie Apollo 13? It sounds like the scene where the crew is programming the navigation computer in the lunar module with the codes from the command module.
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Is this sequence from the movie Apollo 13?

nope. sorry. it's from a TV show.
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[fred]: 742... not sure on this one, but does it relate to Evergreen Terrace?

That's the one.

Sensei Bear, should I start with the original Ghost in the Shell, or just jump straight in to Standalone Complex?
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Type 40 might be from Dr. Who - Tardis Type 40
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Originally posted by George Harris:
Type 40 might be from Dr. Who - Tardis Type 40


Correct!!!
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:

Sensei Bear, should I start with the original Ghost in the Shell, or just jump straight in to Standalone Complex?


Either, grasshopper. Even though the full-length animation features pre-date the TV series (which has two seasons by the way), they are not necessary to understand the series.

In fact, there are those that assert that the two are separate universes and should not be viewed as belonging to the same timeline. (Purists! What can you do with them?)

The second "movie" is a bit difficult to watch as there is no English-language dub. You either need to rely upon the English subtitles, or your Japanese skills (which, except for what I picked up by watching Shogun, do not exist for me). But the animation is incredible.
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Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
... The second "movie" is a bit difficult to watch as there is no English-language dub...

I have the first movie on DVD, but I haven't watched it yet. I kind of previewed it, switching between subtitles and the English dub, and found these are very different translations. So for the original movie, do you recommend subtitles or dub?

(Malice@Doll looks cool. Any thoughts on that one?)
 
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