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Why people work late

Sunil Pradhan
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Hey guys,

Why people here in India used to work late evening and next day come late and again work till late evening..it's all the same effort they put..Why cant they come early and finish up in time...

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MInu
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No matter what time you come to the office in the morning,you have to stay late at the eve.

Thats why i am coming late.


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Originally posted by Sunil Pradhan:
Why people here in India used to work late evening and next day come late and again work till late evening..it's all the same effort they put..Why cant they come early and finish up in time...


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I come in late, I leave late. Although I can't tell you that I don't get the 'odd' look for it even though I'm working while there at home having dinner.


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Sunil Pradhan
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Originally posted by Vinod Ennes:
No matter what time you come to the office in the morning,you have to stay late at the eve.

Thats why i am coming late.
Sunil Pradhan
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Originally posted by Vinod Ennes:
No matter what time you come to the office in the morning,you have to stay late at the eve.

Thats why i am coming late.


But working in late hours usually takes more effort unlike something you do in morning when you are fresh and quite charged up
MInu
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Originally posted by Sunil Pradhan:


But working in late hours usually takes more effort unlike something you do in morning when you are fresh and quite charged up


I agree.

But not practical....im my case.
Dave Lenton
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I wonder how helpful regularly working late is. I do it occasionally when there is something important to do, but I try to avoid regularly working late. This isn't through laziness though. If I was to work an extra two or three hours every day I would end up so tired that my productivity would fall and over the long term I would get less done.

Perhaps a lot of people work late because of peer pressure - there could be unspoken rules that say people should always be seen to be working more then expected. Recently the Japanese government has been urging people to take their full holiday allocation. Lots of Japanese are apparently not taking all their holidays, and becoming tired and ill because of it. Their government think that worker efficiency will go up if they all take their holidays, but are worried that there is a pressure for people not to do so.
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Reza Ravasizadeh
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If somebody arrive late to office and leave late it is another issue.
But in beging of my career I read somewhere that nobody getting rich from extra hour of working and I never did it my career life exception is just a case that BOSS require, but I hate to spent my nice living time in office.


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i don't understand why people work till late hours even if they come early in morning.. but i know that if couple of people in your team work late.. somehow the boss expects everyone else to stay late as well... & it becomes the work culture of the department.. Bad!!
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I work late, to adjust with the onsite timings. It helps me a lot.


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Some people just aren't "morning people". personally, i drag until about 10 or 11 am. if i didn't have to be here so early, i wouldn't come in until then, and just stay later. i am not "fresh" or "quite charged up" early in the morning, no matter what time i went to bed the night before.


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Should you judge somone by the number of hours they work or the quality of the code they produce?

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Jeroen T Wenting
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A lot of people think that they can impress their boss by being in the office before him and leaving after the boss leaves.
In some cultures (most notably Japan) this has gotten silly, with people and managers in a sort of arms race to be the first in every morning.


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My company has an explicit policy of discouraging people from working long hours. Some devos do the late-in/late-out thing, but me, I'm a 9-5:30 kind of guy.

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Jeroen T Wenting
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yah. I like to come in early and leave early.
Doesn't always work of course, quite often you get held up by someone having a "quick" question just before your workday is over that means you're in the office half an hour to an hour longer than planned, but that can be compensated on another day.

Worst part is sometimes getting nasty comments about leaving early from people who always start late and think you're slouching by leaving before them, but a snide remark about people turning up around lunchtime usually cures them quickly enough
Sue Meng
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Jeroen, not relavant to this topic but whats the number 42 in your signature?


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Originally posted by Sue Meng:
Jeroen, not relavant to this topic but whats the number 42 in your signature?
Try this link:


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Sue Meng
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Thanks Andrew.
Dave Lenton
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Originally posted by fred rosenberger:
Some people just aren't "morning people". personally, i drag until about 10 or 11 am. if i didn't have to be here so early, i wouldn't come in until then, and just stay later. i am not "fresh" or "quite charged up" early in the morning, no matter what time i went to bed the night before.
I'm the opposite - I think much better in the morning then in the afternoon, and get much more of my creative done before lunch then after it. The time period between 3pm and 4pm is the dead-zone and I'm sure a good part of my brain goes to sleep.

In an ideal world everyone would probably work in those parts of the day when they're at their best, but the problem with this is finding times of day when everyone is in the office and available for meetings.
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R K Singh
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Originally posted by Chetan Parekh:
Hindi : Kyun Ki Dil Hai Hindustani
English: Because Heart Is Indian


Most of the young people (age 21-26) tends to stay late in night because they want to learn things and second they have nothing to do much back in room/house.
The mantra these young people have is work hard, party hard.

Now once they are married they tend to forget this mantra. But by that time there is so much work pressure that they have to either stay in night or come early. They started reading about time management, dealing with work pressure etc books.

But if you have more work then you have to work more.

And by this time, that young man has bought computer/laptop at home. He starts working form home also.
Wife is happy that he is back in time.
Kids are happy daddy is at home.
Boss is happy, he comes in time and goes in time and still able to work more work.
He thinks he has lerant to manage time.

EOD:
Everyone is happy. Work is still more. Young people are still staying late in office, mid age people are learning time managment, mid-age+ has started working form home.


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