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Creating a site like java ranch

bis ani
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Hi,

For my company, I have to create a forum like javaranch (whih will be used only internally). I have no idea as to what all needs to be there for this requirement.

Please pore in your ideas.

thanks,
Bis
Masoud Kalali
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you may take a look at :
http://www.java-source.net/open-source/forum-software
these are all forums that are written in java and most of them are free of charge (all of them are open source)

you can use any of them that is more suitable for your job.
i would prefer this one : http://www.mvnforum.com/mvnforumweb/index.jsp


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Bear Bibeault
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Nothing to do with portlets. Moved to General Computing.


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Ernest Friedman-Hill
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One thing you'll need is thousands of trained pigeons or monkeys to take the incoming posts and type them into a database, then pull them out and type them back into web pages when a user requests them. Providing living quarters for the monkeys is the hardest part of creating a forum like this one.


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Paul Clapham
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Originally posted by Masoud Kalali:
...these are all forums that are written in java and most of them are free of charge (all of them are open source)...
You don't even necessarily need "written in Java" as a requirement, do you? I see a lot of forums written in PHP. As Masoud says there are plenty of free forums available.
Lasse Koskela
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I'd say start by looking at whether one of the available open source forum software products fulfills your requirements. Also, I wouldn't discount non-Java products such as phpBB and PHP-Nuke.


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bis ani
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Hi All,

thanks for the replies.

But i am confused about this part
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One thing you'll need is thousands of trained pigeons or monkeys to take the incoming posts and type them into a database, then pull them out and type them back into web pages when a user requests them.


Why this cant be automated? we can always develop an application for doing this job or is this too difficult?

Please clarify?

regards,
Bismi
David O'Meara
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1) Ernest is a known trouble maker.
2) Why would you automate something when you can have thousands of pigeons? Use your head, Bert
marc weber
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Originally posted by bis ani:
...Why this cant be automated? we can always develop an application for doing this job or is this too difficult? ...

Consider the economics: For the cost of coding this type of automation, you could train and deploy a contingent of 10k pigeons and monkeys -- and maintain them for up to 15 years.

Note: A 10k PAM (Pigeon And Monkey) contingent is typically configured at a scalable ratio of 3:2, depending on the infrastructure. The 15-year model assumes standard attrition.

Ref: http://www.pam.url/archives/models/10k.jsp


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Scott Selikoff
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I would think by the time you trained 10k pigeons, they would be outdated with the release of Microsoft's .net Pigeon 2.0.


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marc weber
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Originally posted by Scott Selikoff:
I would think by the time you trained 10k pigeons, they would be outdated with the release of Microsoft's .net Pigeon 2.0.

Yes, but the .NET Pigeon framework is only an emulator. And with proper compression, live pigeons can be trained very quickly over a high-speed connection. So depending on what infrastructure you have in place...
Bert Bates
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well this is all very informative, but how did I get sucked into it?


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What if two swallows grabbed it by the husk?


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Henry Wong
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No automation of Pigeons please. Last thing I need is more unemployed pigeons. They are already making a mess of my balcony -- and even building a nest under my air conditioner...

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[ July 13, 2006: Message edited by: Henry Wong ]

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marc weber
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Originally posted by Patrick Williams:
What if two swallows grabbed it by the husk?

Putting aside myriad "what if" scenarios (and their dubious implications), I think the point is this: As soon as you establish a system that allows monkeys to pound on keys, it's only a matter of time before Hamlet is output.
marc weber
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Originally posted by bis ani:
... I have to create a forum like javaranch...

Now that you've seen how this works, are you sure you want to create a forum like JavaRanch?
Paul Clapham
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Well, at least the pigeons are covered by RFC 1149, an Internet standard. I'm not aware of any standards for monkeys.
[ July 13, 2006: Message edited by: Paul Clapham ]
Ernest Friedman-Hill
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The truth is that here at JavaRanch, we use cows. The Rules Roundup game is actually the simulator we use to train the cows.
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And nowadays pigeons are more useful for search technology.


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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
The truth is that here at JavaRanch, we use cows. The Rules Roundup game is actually the simulator we use to train the cows.


Oh great! Just let the whole world know! Now we're going to have PETA poking around...
Paul Clapham
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Seems to me this thread has deteriorated into Meaningless Drivel. So I'm moving it there.
marc weber
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Originally posted by Paul Clapham:
Seems to me this thread has deteriorated into Meaningless Drivel...

No, not "deteriorated" -- it's "elevated."

(Monkeys like me tend to be very protective of their drivel. :roll: )
Stan James
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What if two swallows grabbed it by the husk?


African swallows or European swallows?


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Andrew Monkhouse
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Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
Oh great! Just let the whole world know! Now we're going to have PETA poking around...


Or the FBI will come around asking about us (FBI Goes After Bonsaikitten.com)
ankur rathi
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Chetan referred me this site, I found is easiest to deploy...

http://www.jforum.net/
Jeroen T Wenting
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Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:


Oh great! Just let the whole world know! Now we're going to have PETA poking around...


People Eating Tasty Animals. I can understand how that might be a problem at a cattleranch.


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Bear Bibeault
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Mmmmmm, beef! It's what's for dinner!
Jack Haley
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One thing you'll need is thousands of trained pigeons or monkeys to take the incoming posts and type them into a database, then pull them out and type them back into web pages when a user requests them. Providing living quarters for the monkeys is the hardest part of creating a forum like this one.
You speak in riddles. With PERL Larry lets you beam a pipe to a screen saver from anywhere in the 20th century. Get deep throat to make UBB say uncle.
No, not "deteriorated" -- it's "elevated."
Your off topic soldier. WE might just not need you on that wall..
well this is all very informative, but how did I get sucked into it?
You haven't learned not to post in MD under your real name
1) Ernest is a known trouble maker.
I hear the bonanaza theme going in the back ground. JD - friends come and go enemies accumulate.

I say attack on two fronts. MD does not need to port and it's the place to practice your Jedi Nights skills.


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Jeroen T Wenting
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Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
Mmmmmm, beef! It's what's for dinner!


it is tomorrow. Pasta with ground beef and mushrooms in tomato cream sauce.
Jack Haley
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The honorable thing to do is form a relationship of mistrust with UBB. You don't want to be in the UBB business anyway. Someday when you get a chance read Out of the Crisis. A wise ass on JD first brought it to my attention. JY called him a jackass. He said - yeah I vote for the true blue party, so what?
it is tomorrow. Pasta with ground beef and mushrooms in tomato cream sauce.
Man that sounds good. Where's the google map? I'll bring two cases of the king of boars.
[ July 15, 2006: Message edited by: Jack Haley ]
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Originally posted by Stan James:


African swallows or European swallows?


Huh? I-- I don't know that. Auuuuuuuugh!


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Mark Spritzler
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OK, back to forums. This is sort of a Portal question, considering that JBoss Forums is written in JBoss Portal using Portlets.

But What is your favorite color?

Red, no Blue, AHHHHHHHHHH!


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Jeroen T Wenting
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One, Two, Five
 
It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
 
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