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Unemployed for 1 year.

Varun Nayudu
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Joined: Jun 26, 2006
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Hi

I am a java programmer from bombay ,i left my previous employee becuase i was not getting the worth i deserved and i also felt that i wasnt gaining any knowledge because of which i used to fare very badly in company exam in other comapnies .So i quite my job and studied on my basics and completed 2 certification thinking that i would get a job after completing them . But now looking at the market situation i am clueless. About a month back i got a offer to work from home on a project for a hospital . So that has kept me busy .But now i feel depressed as my patience is running out. I dont know what to do . I dont know struts nor any other the only things that i know are what i have studied for the certifications . I am trying to learn these new technologies but cant as i am forgetting what i learn . I want to completely understand these technologies so that when some body asks me in the interview i can say to them properly, how should i learn these new frameworks .

Please help me I feel like a loser .

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RaviNada Kiran
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Joined: Jan 30, 2009
Posts: 528
Do you think that you are only the person who lost job ??

Even Me too recently . But never give up . Fight until you get it.


If you want something you never had do something which you had never done
Eric Lemaitre
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Joined: Jul 03, 2004
Posts: 538

Hi Varun,

Varun Nayudu wrote:Please help me I feel like a loser .


Although the fundamentals of economics have very recently become much better, purge is technically over and economics is growing again as M2-M1 aggregates shows, which will allow the growth to be visible in US from 2nd trimester onwards, no effect is visible yet on employment which remains as catastrophic as these last months. In clear whatever good you are if you lost your job these 16 last months you simply stood no chance to find a new one. You are no loser, you are just like everyone, so keep faith in you for you did nothing wrong.

It is important that you maintain your skills, perhaps learn new ones if you are sure they are in need, until economics obviously gets better (2nd trimester in US and will spread more or less quickly in other countries from there according to countries' social background).

Best regards.


Eric LEMAITRE
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Varun Nayudu
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Joined: Jun 26, 2006
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Thanks guys for replying to me. I just want to know what are the prospect of sap ,and should i try for sap or continue with java. After being unemployed for 1+yeear i am having lots of doubt on my java abilities.

Please tell me also why sap is so much in demand in comparison to java. Is it a better and faster in building applications than java .
Deepak Bala
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Joined: Feb 24, 2006
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Please help me I feel like a loser .


Dont give up. The job market is still alive but difficult. Some employers do recognize certifications. If you stick to it you can make wonders. Be persistent and keep learning. There are many that have lost their job and finding one is not easy. You are not a loser.


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arulk pillai
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Keep persevering. You are not alone. Some of the following tips may be handy

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Handy tips to get some work experience in your resume


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Josh Wild
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Joined: May 27, 2008
Posts: 7
If you can move to NCR and wish to work on some serious Java programming in Finance then you can write to me. I may be of some help.

...cheer up, you have not done anything wrong. There are only few people who take such brave steps for the good of their careers.
Arvind Mahendra
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Joined: Jul 14, 2007
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Also look into Admin and Tech support related jobs. I get alot of these in my inbox these days and I have a feeling they are on average even higher paying then development jobs.


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Tim Holloway
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Joined: Jun 25, 2001
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In April 2001, the department I was in was made redundant, and a new management more used to dealing with employees as commodities instead of skills and internal corporate knowledge kicked me (and others) into the street. About this time the 2001 recession kicked in. I didn't find another position until August 2003. By my timeline, you're not even halfway there yet, and this promises to be an even bigger and uglier recession than the last one was.

During that interval I wrote a nationally-published article on Struts, but it didn't get me any more offers. In fact, I think I had a grand total of 4 interviews over the entire 2-1/4 year period. And I was told I got off lightly compared to some.

It sounds, however, like you're attempting to make progress in an area that you don't really have an aptitude for, and this isn't an ideal time for that. Rather than feeling bad about what you can't do, take inventory of what you can do and what you like to do. It may not always command top pay, but you're far more likely to succeed. And you might even discover that top pay for doing what you do well is better than mediocre pay for doing something you don't do well.


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Marcel Wentink
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Joined: Sep 19, 2008
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Oh as a junior I knew many people from my class that were unemployed for more then a year in 1993. It's a very jumpy market, software. Bad times are suddenly back. And also I do not remember all details of my SCJP exam a year after. Although I must say, I am programming in C++ and Delphi at the moment so that does not help to remember Java details. Don't think that it's you to blame!
Zakir Hosain
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Joined: Apr 28, 2007
Posts: 16
Hey Varun

Java Developer needed in Manama, Bahrain

Job Details

Position Java Developer
Industry Type Banking / Financial Services / Broking
Functional Area IT - Software
Location of Job Manama - Bahrain
Monthly Salary (in US$) $1001 - $3000
Job Description The candidate is responsible for the Analysis, Design, Build, Test and Implementation of a custom middle-ware layer that will automate the data manipulation and routing of transaction records and data files in real-time and batch modes.

Principal Accountabilities:
• Middle-ware layer analysis, design, build, test and implementation.
• Data analysis.
• Validation of data integrity throughout middle-ware layer.
• Provide data quality/ integrity reports.
• Documentation of all specifications and software development.
• Manage project workload as part of an overall programme.

Core Competencies:
• Unique Knowledge & Skills
• Number of years experience in relevant fields:
• 3-5 years Developer
• Expert knowledge of:
• Multiple software development environments/ languages, especially C++
• Java essential
• Data Analysis
• Development on UNIX platform.

Basic Experience and knowledge of:
• PL/ SQL programming.
• SQL scripting.
• Credit/ Charge Card Systems desirable.

Desired Candidate's Profile

Profile Number of years experience in relevant fields:
3-5 years Developer.
Expert knowledge of:
Multiple software development environments/ languages, especially C++
Java essential.
Data Analysis.
Development on UNIX platform.
Basic Experience and knowledge of:
PL/ SQL programming.
SQL scripting.
Credit/ Charge Card Systems desirable.
Experience 2 - 4 years
Education Basic - Secondary School
Nationality Any Nationality
Gender Any

Contact Details

Name Shaily - Coordinator
Email shaily@itpeoplegulf.com


Keywords: Java, C++, J Developer, Software, Software Developer, PL/ SQL, SQL


http://www.naukrigulf.com/ni/nijobsearch/250109000005::::qshomepage::browsecat_page::::all@@@n::

Take Care

Zakir


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Bauke Scholtz
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Joined: Oct 08, 2006
Posts: 2458
Keep visiting job boards. Keep applying jobs.
http://www.monsterboard.com
http://coder.jobs.com

In meanwhile you can work yourself up by freelancing:
http://www.rentacoder.com
http://www.freelancers.net
Chris Creed
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Joined: Feb 27, 2009
Posts: 67

Bauke Scholtz wrote:Keep visiting job boards. Keep applying jobs.
http://www.monsterboard.com
http://coder.jobs.com

In meanwhile you can work yourself up by freelancing:
http://www.rentacoder.com
http://www.freelancers.net


Excellent links. Two more added to the ole bookmark section. Thanks!

Josh Wild wrote:If you can move to NCR and wish to work on some serious Java programming in Finance then you can write to me. I may be of some help.

...cheer up, you have not done anything wrong. There are only few people who take such brave steps for the good of their careers.


HI there I just read your post and wondered if the NCR refers to the National Capital Region in Canada?
Jhakda Velu
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Joined: Feb 26, 2008
Posts: 166
Hi
First and foremost, as Tim said, find out whether you have aptitude and liking for java. Assuming that you have,try the following:
1. Rework on you certification material, it will take about 10 days. Certification are no waste, you learn the essentials. When you are going through, make notes.
2. Given you are SCWCD, learning Struts won't be very difficult. Start with CRUD example in Struts, you will get a basic understanding of the flow. Keep digging deeper then. Come up with small projects, you can talk about these when you are asked about what you did in the past one year.
3. Read about database and basic SQL.
4. Once you are done with this, go through the commonly asked interview questions available on net. Its typical interview type, so you need to go through them.

Last but not the least, DO NOT show fake experience for the past one year.

Jhakda


If I become filthy rich, I'll sponsor research for painless dental treatment at Harvard Medical School. Thats why,I'm learning Java.I have 32 teeth, 22 are man made.
Varun Nayudu
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Joined: Jun 26, 2006
Posts: 157
Thanks guys for your reply . Thanks for your inspiring response.
Billy Tsai
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I feel suicidal every morning
K. Tsang
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Joined: Sep 13, 2007
Posts: 2563
    
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Hi all, I'm currently also in-between jobs. Recently working on my SCJD project and now that I've done and waiting I need to keep myself busy.

In fact my previous job is doing PHP web stuff. And I took a J2EE course last year learning JSP/servlets, Struts, EJB etc. Hoping to switch to Java jobs. And now with market like this and I don't have much Java experience yet SCJD pending.

Anyway loosing touch with technical skills is always scared. I was doing some simple HTML page for my SCJD project and thought of using CSS... then after a while I said to myself, why bother with CSS when everything formatting can be done with HTML.

So now I really need to think of something big enough and I can manage by myself using all possible knowledge I can get my hands on. But then it really comes down to how you design the application.


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chris webster
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Joined: Mar 01, 2009
Posts: 1786
    
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I sympathise with everybody here who's having trouble finding work. I have spent 4 out of the last 7 years out of work, haven't had a paid job in nearly 2 years, and am getting pretty darned tired of this latest recession!

I guess all we can do is try to keep our skills up to date, gain new skills and experience where we can, and not let every day be dominated by the knowledge that we are out of work.

Right now I'm studying for the SCWCD exam, learning a bit of PHP to help out with a community website, playing around with Grails (mmm, lovely Grails...), and of course trying to find a job.

If you are already experienced with Java, maybe you can do some voluntary work or find an open-source project that you can contribute to, which will look good on your CV next time you apply for a paid job.

Also, if you can, try to do something apart from look for work or worry about not having a job, even if it's just for a few hours a week. You can only spend so much time productively on looking for work each day. After that it's a case of diminishing returns, and you may be better off going for a walk and starting fresh the next day.

FWIW, my impression is that Java skills are still in demand generally, which is why I'm busy trying to improve mine. Well, it's either that or give up on my IT career after 20 years, which really would be depressing!

Anyway, good luck to all of you.


No more Blub for me, thank you, Vicar.
chris webster
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Varun Nayudu wrote:
Please tell me also why sap is so much in demand in comparison to java. Is it a better and faster in building applications than java .


One reason it seems to be in demand is that there are fewer people with SAP skills. And one reason for that is that, unlike Java, SAP is an expensive proprietary enterprise platform, so it has been hard for people to start learning SAP without access to the tools unless they were already working for a company that used SAP. As far as I know, SAP still does not provide free "developer-only" licences for its software (unlike Oracle, for example), so it's hard to break into SAP on your own.

But if anybody knows a back door into SAP, let us know!
jim li
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Joined: May 20, 2008
Posts: 180
"Please help me I feel like a loser ."

do not give up, just keep learning, or i suggest you can try to start your own project.

but never give up, the market will get better, and you will get a job.
Varun Nayudu
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Joined: Jun 26, 2006
Posts: 157
Guys i got a job at satyamBPO in technical support , my training is going on and after this training if i pass the assesment i would get the job. Know that i a job please can any body tell me how could i get a job in the software sector .I want to get into software but due to the market condition dont know how and were . Please let me know if there are any opening any where.

Thanks for your guidance and support.
arulk pillai
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Posts: 3223
Good to hear that.

While working

-- try to network with the right people to open dorrs for you in development.
-- allocate some time acquiring the required technical skills. Work on self-taught projects, work on tutorials, contribute to open-source projects, etc to gain hands-on experience.

Good luck.
Shiva Sankhar
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Joined: Mar 19, 2009
Posts: 41
Hello friends,
I resigned my job last year for some reasons, after that I tried for job and attended some interviews , at that time recession started...after 6 months I found that I have to learn new technologies, then I started to lear ejb,hibernate,spring,...At present I am looking for job( I have nearly 1 year gap), Will I get a call? ....Please suggest me....


Thanks & Regards
pradeep
arulk pillai
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All depends on you and a matter of time. Keep working at and you will find a break. Try different avenues. Also try to volunteer as well in exchange for hands-on experience. In addition to technical skills, build your job hunting skills, networking skills, etc. Good luck.
 
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