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ankur rathi
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I want to purchase a new laptop.

I am very much confused with it, I even can't decide the features I want because of little knowledge.

In general, my requirements are:

A reasonably fast processor and enough RAM to run applications like eclipse, WSAD
DVD
Display size (should not be an issue)
Camera-not required
OS-XP

Not sure, which company is providing good? What other features I should look for, those might be very important but I don't know now?

Please help.

Thanks.
[ September 12, 2006: Message edited by: rathi ji ]
Svend Rost
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price


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Have you been looking at some laptops? it's easier if you come with
a number of laptops and then get feedback on those...
[ September 12, 2006: Message edited by: Svend Rost ]
ankur rathi
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Originally posted by Svend Rost:
price


edit:

Have you been looking at some laptops? it's easier if you come with
a number of laptops and then get feedback on those...

[ September 12, 2006: Message edited by: Svend Rost ]


Around 50 to 55 thousands INR.

I went to one showroom but got more confused with the new terms and features...
Chetan Parekh
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Rathi Ji, please check your PM.


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Svend Rost
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Originally posted by rathi ji:


Around 50 to 55 thousands INR.

I went to one showroom but got more confused with the new terms and features...


Well, I've seen the MacBook for around 9000 kr which is quite cheap
for a mac, but I dont know if your interested in a Mac. I think the
black one looks super cool, but it also costs 1000 kr more.
Edisandro Bessa
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Sony Vaio series is THE notebook


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Pavel Kubal
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Originally posted by Edisandro Bessa:
Sony Vaio series is THE notebook


I little fanatic post, don't you think? Not every VAIO is good...personal experience.

At least you could write pros and cons.

And what's more....wouldn't it be nice to have all prices in US dollars? I (and many of us) dont understand all currencies of the world.
Svend Rost
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Originally posted by Pavel Kubal:

And what's more....wouldn't it be nice to have all prices in US dollars?

I agree.
Ganpi Srinivasan
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Whatever you decide, do NOT buy a Dell - this is from my personal experience.

P.S: Isn't it a coincidence their name rhymes with "Hell"??
Deepak Bala
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Whatever you decide, do NOT buy a Dell - this is from my personal experience.


What !!!??? you dont want a lap top exploding on your lap ? Well thats just CRAZY !


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ankur rathi
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Let me rephrase my question again.

I am interested in knowing what features I should look for???

Which company and model is good for those features???

Thanks.
Jeroen T Wenting
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Originally posted by Pavel Kubal:
And what's more....wouldn't it be nice to have all prices in US dollars? I (and many of us) dont understand all currencies of the world.


True. But prices vary wildly around the world.
A laptop costing $1000 in the US might cost twice that in Europe or half that in Hong Kong.


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Pavel Kubal
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Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:


True. But prices vary wildly around the world.
A laptop costing $1000 in the US might cost twice that in Europe or half that in Hong Kong.


Yes I know. But in this you have no choice.

To the topic. I prefer IBM Thinkpad T series. Thin, powerful and their software is the best I have seen. Yes, it is little bit expensive, but for professional good choice. Some people don't like their black design, some people want sheen silver notebook. But I'm conservative and like these books.

What features to look for? It depens on your needs. Write what do you expect from your notebook and you will raise chances, that people will help you in decision.
marc weber
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Originally posted by John Meyers:
...What !!!??? you dont want a lap top exploding on your lap ? Well thats just CRAZY !

Note: The affected batteries (in Dell and Apple laptops) were made by Sony.


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Richard Green
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this is what i use
http://www.cybershop.net.au/Notebooks/ToshibaSatelliteA100.shtml

i found that 256 wasn't fast enough so I added a 512 on top of that.

been using this for more than a year, no complaints so far.


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Jeroen T Wenting
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Originally posted by marc weber:

Note: The affected batteries (in Dell and Apple laptops) were made by Sony.


Why am I not surprised? Sony's had a truckload of QA problems lately, maybe they want to make My First Sony My Last Sony as well
Deepak Bala
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Note: The affected batteries (in Dell and Apple laptops) were made by Sony.


Ahhhhh this i did not know. Thanks for telling me
Yosi Hendarsjah
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Originally posted by rathi ji:

Around 50 to 55 thousands INR.

How much is this in US$?

My advice is buy the one that has Core Duo processor, and has at least 512 MB of RAM (although 1 GB or more is better).
In Indonesia, you can buy this for about US$ 1000.
Eric Pascarello
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I like my laptop to have a screen and a keyboard and maybe a battery

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marc weber
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Originally posted by Eric Pascarello:
I like my laptop to have a screen and a keyboard and maybe a battery...

Sure, if money were no object.


[ September 14, 2006: Message edited by: marc weber ]
ankur rathi
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Which one is more useful, Genuine Windows home edition or professional edition?
ankur rathi
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Originally posted by Pavel Kubal:



What features to look for? It depens on your needs. Write what do you expect from your notebook and you will raise chances, that people will help you in decision.


Sorry, I missed this point.

Well, as I said earlier also, I will run application like WSAD, eclipse or portal server at max, should have DVD player for entertainment, what else?

Camera � no need.
Bluetooth � if not affecting much in price then okay otherwise not needed.

That�s all my requirement I can think of now.
Raghav Sam
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Originally posted by rathi ji:
... I will run application like WSAD, eclipse or portal server


If you run WSAD then you will need at least 2 GB of RAM whatever be the brand..


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marc weber
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Originally posted by rathi ji:
Which one is more useful, Genuine Windows home edition or professional edition?

It depends on what you mean by "useful."
ankur rathi
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Originally posted by Raghav Sam:


If you run WSAD then you will need at least 2 GB of RAM whatever be the brand..


I will go for 1 GB RAM.

If 2 GB is not making big difference then can go for that also...
Bert Bates
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Lots of tongue-in-cheek in this thread

Seriously, I understand that computers are expensive, but it seems to me that people often undervalue their own time when buying a computer. If you save some money upfront, but don't get a quality product, then you'll quickly chew up your savings in lost time

I'm a huge fan of OS X for that reason. I used Window$ OSes for years and I found that they wasted a lot more of my time than OS X does.

Also, don't underestimate the productivity gain of adding more pixels! IMHO this is one of the most important differentiating features between laptops.
[ September 18, 2006: Message edited by: Bert Bates ]

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Svend Rost
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Originally posted by Bert Bates:
[QB]
..it seems to me that people often undervalue their own time when buying a computer...

I'm a huge fan of OS X for that reason. I used Window$ OSes for years and I found that they wasted a lot more of my time than OS X does.QB]

Good point Bert. Care to elaborate on the last part of the quote? is OS X
"faster" than win xp for instance, or how should it be understood.
vasu maj
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Yeah Bert. Elaborate. Please.


What a wonderful world!
marc weber
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Speaking only for myself (obviously not Bert)...

I haven't performed any objective testing, but my impression is that Macs are, in fact, much faster than comparable Windows machines. I don't "wait" for my Mac to do things.

But more important than saving a few seconds here and there, I'm far more productive using a Mac because:
  • I spend virtually no time performing system maintenance, dealing with errors, or recovering from crashes.
  • Everything is so intuitive and straight-forward that I don't waste a lot of time figuring out how to do something -- which is especially interesting because I've struggled with Windows for over a decade, but I've worked with Macs for little more than a year. Basically, everything works the way you would expect, if not easier!
  • Mac apps tend to be loaded with useful convenience features. For example, the Mac browser, Safari, spell checks when filling out forms, has right-click options for web searching, dictionary lookup, and Spotlight (like Google Desktop), has built-in RSS, etc.
  • I can actually do multiple things at once without fear of crashing or freezing.

  • [ September 18, 2006: Message edited by: marc weber ]
    vasu maj
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    Did you not face any problems of mac not being the OS of choice...
    Are all the software / games / plugins releasing mac versions these days?
    marc weber
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    Originally posted by vasu maj:
    Did you not face any problems of mac not being the OS of choice...
    Are all the software / games / plugins releasing mac versions these days?

    Personally, I have not had any problems with software availability -- nor with file compatibility. (Note that MS Office is available for Mac.) I would add that Mac apps don't mess up other apps: I've never had any settings changed that I didn't want or expect.

    However, I'm not a gamer, so I can't speak to that issue. Macs are not the best choice for everyone, but I do think they deserve serious consideration. From my experience, most people's apprehensions over switching turn out to be unfounded.

    I literally spent years investigating Macs before switching -- even buying a new Dell desktop while I remained unconvinced. When I finally switched, I could only wonder what took me so long, and why so many people still use Windows.
    marc weber
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    Oh, yeah... Whizlabs preparation kits only run on Windows. :roll:
    Bert Bates
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    Basically, what Marc said

    I wasn't talking about raw speed - to me they're all pretty close unless you have a really unique kind of work to do. ASAIC it's all about being hassle-free and worry-free - sometimes I'l be working along and notice that I have 15 windows open - and I don't get all freaked out that I'm inches away from a blue screen of death.

    I also agree that OS X and the related software is just a lot more intuitive and pleasant to work with - again, I value the experience, and for me OS X is a much, much nicer experience than any flavor of Window$ that I've ever seen. Then there's the whole virus thing...stop me before I sound like an Apple ad
    ankur rathi
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    ... But then why all companies (HP, IBM, Lenovo, Dell etc) recommends Microsoft XP??? :roll:
    marc weber
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    Originally posted by rathi ji:
    ... But then why all companies (HP, IBM, Lenovo, Dell etc) recommends Microsoft XP??? :roll:

    For one thing, Mac OS X is only for Apple computers. It doesn't run on machines by HP, IBM, Lenovo, Dell, etc.

    (But if you need to, you can run Microsoft XP on the new Intel Macs.)
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