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Country name along with the names of Ranchers.

Rahul Bhattacharjee
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Will this not be great to associate the country of rancher along with the name.
It would be great to know with whome we are talking using these posts.


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fred rosenberger
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Why do you want to know what country someone is from or in? I don't see any advantage to this. What exactly does it gain you?

One of the things i like about this community is that it IS a community. We're all from the JavaRanch, and that's what matters.

that's my personal opinion. So if you can tell my why i need to know where someone is from, i might change my mind.
[ November 16, 2006: Message edited by: fred rosenberger ]

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Rahul Bhattacharjee
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As community ; yes , I do agree that this thing should not be promoted.

But this is the way I am, I like to know about people which whome I am interacting.
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On JavaRanch, it's pretty safe to assume that you're interacting with Java developers. What more would you need to know?

To take it a step further, I'll say that I don't even like the [INDIA], [US], [EUROPE] tags that I sometimes see in the subject line of specific posts.

One of the nice things about JavaRanch is that it is international and open to all. Limiting discussions to particular countries, or regions, in my opinion, runs contrary to all of the things that helped build this community in the first place.
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I can't ever find the country I am from in any country lists I come across. I think we should start adding Planet, or as my species calls it, shooby dooby dooby.


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Marilyn de Queiroz
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Country of origin or current location?


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I agree that such a feature would serve to divide our community. We're all merely "Ranchers."


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Ben Souther
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Originally posted by Marilyn de Queiroz:
Country of origin or current location?


Planet of origin.
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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
I can't ever find the country I am from in any country lists I come across. I think we should start adding Planet, or as my species calls it, shooby dooby dooby.


Ditto.

Anyway what's wrong with a little mystery?


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We could also include species, so the robots amongst us have to identify themselves

Seriously, I suspect that if we did ask for country name (whether current country or country of origin) we would get a lot of incorrect information entered - assuming it gets entered at all (I can see no way this would ever be mandatory).

But it seems from your second post that you are agreeing that this is not good from a community perspective, so perhaps we should just let this drop. Without a benefit to our community I cant see it ever happening.

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[Ben Souther]: Planet of origin.

You Earthers and your obsession with meaningless boundaries! :roll:


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Ben Souther
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
[Ben Souther]: Planet of origin.

You Earthers and your obsession with meaningless boundaries! :roll:


Problem is:
You try to open things up to other planets in OUR solar system, and next thing you know, you've got to deal with riff-raff from every stray comet that flies by. We have to draw the boundaries somewhere.

As long as WWW stands for WORLD wide web, I think we should limit JavaRanch to Earthlings.
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Originally posted by Ben Souther:
As long as WWW stands for WORLD wide web, I think we should limit JavaRanch to Earthlings.


But does that include the Denebian Slime Devils that were born here? What about them? Doesn't that make them Earth citizens?
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I am from Terminus, Any trantorians around...?
Jeroen T Wenting
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Originally posted by Ben Souther:

To take it a step further, I'll say that I don't even like the [INDIA], [US], [EUROPE] tags that I sometimes see in the subject line of specific posts.


Worse than just not liking them, I think they're elitist. They explicitly exclude a large section of the userbase from participation (or seem intended to).


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Originally posted by Ben Souther:

To take it a step further, I'll say that I don't even like the [INDIA], [US], [EUROPE] tags that I sometimes see in the subject line of specific posts.


Personally, I like them. It's a convenient way to identify threads that need to be deleted.
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Personally, I like them. It's a convenient way to identify threads that need to be deleted.

Except in the Jobs Offered forum, where threads WITHOUT some kind of location in the subject are considered for deletion.
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Gregg: I can't ever find the country I am from in any country lists I come across.

Same here!


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Rahul Bhattacharjee
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So I suppose that , I have continue to guess the country of the rancher who has just taken me out of trouble by answering my post.
Oh ! that cool.I am very good at country guessing.
;-)
Ben Souther
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Originally posted by Rahul Bhattacharjee:
So I suppose that , I have continue to guess the country of the rancher who has just taken me out of trouble by answering my post.
Oh ! that cool.I am very good at country guessing.
;-)


Or, you could ask them.
The forum software has private message capability.
Nicholas Jordan
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
[JY]: You Earthers and your obsession with meaningless boundaries!


That's what I thought - you could deal with my question type, without quashing the first round of recurrent-descent locks on meaning-inversions at digressive junctures in "Removing Entries From a Collection" & realted devolvements such as whether join() blocks.

I just had conversations with Gene and Frank, telling them that I had pissed off a hornet's nest of Ph.D's .... Frank knew what I was talking about, Gene had to digest it for 800 ms.

The absolute beauty of WWW - weird world of wired - rests on the fact that even as I speak, I have no absolute way of determining you are not a twelve year old female, at email kiosk #13, in the Moscow Bus Station. Katrina Lottabulski - Agent for Tunguska Snake Oil Company.

It is the IDEAS THAT MATTER. Not the identifiable set of characteristics usually labeled Nation, that we are assembled for. I can tell all forthrightly that Nationality, as an identifiying tag, will become a Mustard Gas , making a Fog of Oblivion in which no further societal progress is possible, leaving accomplishments in computer science saying: bye,bye - java

Massively parallel machines are in existence - even consumer grade hardware now implements 1 megabyte L2 points in information orbitals. With deep-branch prediction and speculative execution pushing thought-trains down the information super-highway at one billion operations per second effective throughput, there is no utility in devolving present fora to Common Language Information Technology.

It's the ideas that matter, but Jim .... do you really feel comfortable stating:   " You Earthers and your obsession with meaningless boundaries! "   in these guys mindset ?

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[NJ]:
It's the ideas that matter, but Jim .... do you really feel comfortable stating: " You Earthers and your obsession with meaningless boundaries! " in these guys mindset ?


Uh, sure. Why not?
Jeroen T Wenting
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The WWW is no longer confined to this dirtball anyway
They're using it in orbit regularly and a probe sent to Mars contained a wireless router (with somewhat increased power I guess compared to the ones sold in stores) to enable it to send life data onto and over the internet (though it was processed on earth before being put onto the web)
Gian Franco
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Why thinking so big 'planetary', 'galaxy', etc.

Judging from the answers in some threads, sometimes
I think people are answering from the weirdest places,
e.g.:
[AT WORK WITH BOSS WALKING AROUND]
[AT THE DINING TABLE]
[IN BED, ABOUT TO SLEEP]
[IN THE TOILET]

Why not associate this to the name

Kind regards,

Gian [ABOUT TO HAVE LUNCH]
[ December 03, 2006: Message edited by: Gian Franco Casula ]

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Originally posted by Gian Franco Casula:
I think people are answering from the weirdest places,
.....
[IN THE TOILET]
Internet access from the toilet! Fantastic. You could log on while you... er... log on.


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Carol Enderlin
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Perhaps this discussion could move to MD?
Gian Franco
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Originally posted by Carol Enderlin:
Perhaps this discussion could move to MD?


Those place mentioned above are seen as mere ordinary places,
they look very insignificant, and probably beneath
notice in the normal thread of discussions in the forum.

But most probably they are very valid, and recognizable compared
to the country of origin that was mentioned by the first post.

Kind regards,

Gian
[ December 05, 2006: Message edited by: Gian Franco Casula ]
Ashok Mash
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I think its a great idea! I can't stand people who post from Uranus!
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Alan Wanwierd
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Half the fun of a forum like this is wondering where people might be from.. There are plenty of clues if you're that bothered by it:

1) Look at a name - it generaly gives you some clue as to the cultural environment of the posters parents - "Rajaneesh Patel", "Patrick O'Callaghan", "Xian Lee", "Jean-Pierre Blanc" for example are (in this case fictional) names that have more than a hint of cultural baggage...

2) Times - If all my posts happen between 00:00GMT and 10:00GMT then theres a good chance thats when I'm at work and massively increases the probability of you being able to predict what timezone I'm in!

3) Attitudes - If, for example, someone talks frequently about the dangers of an excess of government and suggests that arming ourselves with handguns for personal protection is an important idea then the probablity of us succesfully predicting roughly where they come from increases. Other attitudes also have very strong cultrual/geographic ties and help us to determine some of the environment of the poster..

Ultimately any one of these techniques can only help us to guess where someone is from - and it doesnt really matter, but I do think that understanding someone elses frames of reference in any debate can be useful in helping to understand the points they try to raise.
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Anyone from Andromeda out there ?
Gail Mikels
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OHH! By reading the title of the post, I thought you meant "country" name as in "redneck" name, for example Rahul "Billy-Bob" Bhattacharjee...

Silly me...


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Hi Elaine,

Funny post

Gian
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is there a need to see .... the stars upon thars .... ???

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Republic of Javaranch.....
Rahul Bhattacharjee
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do you belong to this country.
 
 
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