Grails & Seam

Hi Jon,

I guess Grails and Seam framework also should blend well each other. Any thought on this?

Mourouganandame Arunachalam wrote:Hi Jon,

I guess Grails and Seam framework also should blend well each other. Any thought on this?

No they don't. They are, for lack of a better term, competing frameworks.

Thanks Gregg.... But just wants to understand, how an integration framework can directly compete with an web application framework?

From the Seam website:

Seam is a powerful open source development platform for building rich Internet applications in Java. Seam integrates technologies such as Asynchronous JavaScript and XML (AJAX), JavaServer Faces (JSF), Java Persistence (JPA), Enterprise Java Beans (EJB 3.0) and Business Process Management (BPM) into a unified full-stack solution, complete with sophisticated tooling.

How do you perceive that Seam is not a web framework? Both Seam and Grails are used to create internet applications/web applications. Both are considered full-stack solutions. Both integrate several technologies to achieve this. Exactly what part of Seam do you think would integrate well with Grails?

Hi Gregg:

Thanks for the update.

Correct me if I'm wrong..... I thought it's possible to replace/use Grails in the place of JSF within the Seam integration layers, if I don't like to use JSF.

Mourouganandame Arunachalam wrote:Hi Gregg:

Thanks for the update.

Correct me if I'm wrong..... I thought it's possible to replace/use Grails in the place of JSF within the Seam integration layers, if I don't like to use JSF.

I can't honestly say whether or not this is possible. However, my advice would be if you don't like JSF, there isn't much reason to use Seam, is there? Grails pretty much provides everything else Seam does (and much more) IMHO.

Gregg Bolinger wrote:
I can't honestly say whether or not this is possible. However, my advice would be if you don't like JSF, there isn't much reason to use Seam, is there? Grails pretty much provides everything else Seam does (and much more) IMHO.

May be other Grails and/or Seam experts may provide their view point on this.

I agree that JSF will fit well with Seam. However, I found this LINK for using GWT in place of JSF.

Mourouganandame Arunachalam wrote:I agree that JSF will fit well with Seam. However, I found this LINK for using GWT in place of JSF.

Well, replacing JSF (a view technology) with GWT (a view technology) is quite different than replacing JSF with Grails. Grails is full-stack, remember? Grails isn't just a view technology.

Grails isn't just a view technology.

Yes Gregg. You have a valid point.