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Amruth Puppala
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Joined: Jul 14, 2008
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Hi Friends,

I am very fresh candidate to SCEA, so please bare with my simple questions.

I have completed SCJP 5 and SCWCD 5.
Now I am planning to complete SCEA but I am very new to this certification.
When I was reading contents of SCEA I come across EJBs also needed. I am very new to EJBs also.

I mean Am I able to finish it without knowing EJBs. Any other technologies involved in SCEA.
How tough is this exam. What is part I and part II and part III concepts I am not clear about them.

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Amruth

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Christophe Verré
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I mean Am I able to finish it without knowing EJBs.

Do you plan to become a J2EE certified architect without even knowing EJBs ?


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Amruth Puppala
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Yeah I am thinking in that way only.

Why an architect should know the EJB as technoplogy? If he know basic funda about EJBs is it not enough.

I completed SCWCD with 95% without really having that much expereince in web technologies..I have gone through all the docs and materials related to SCWCD.

So I am thinking in similar manner, saying if I skip/read some quick notes of EJBs Can I finish my SCEA successfully.
Deepika Joshi
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Joined: Feb 24, 2009
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Scea - Arch who can provide solution to Enterprise needs with J2ee tech.
If one understand ejb - why to choose stateless or statefull, MDB or Jms, Jdbc or Jpa, web service or ejb, Jsf or Jsp, best suitable DP for specific problem, How depict in best way Uml, what are security concerns, protocols etc.
A person can provide best sol if has enough experience or study all tech and best case to use them.
Getting good marks in web comp feet with the help of Cert guide is one thing, scea needs much more.
My intention is to let you know that congrats for food marks but that's just begining.
All the best for scea.
Hong Anderson
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Joined: Jul 05, 2005
Posts: 1936
Amruth Puppala wrote:Yeah I am thinking in that way only.

Why an architect should know the EJB as technoplogy? If he know basic funda about EJBs is it not enough.

I completed SCWCD with 95% without really having that much expereince in web technologies..I have gone through all the docs and materials related to SCWCD.

So I am thinking in similar manner, saying if I skip/read some quick notes of EJBs Can I finish my SCEA successfully.

You can create architecture and design using only Servlet technology, it's possible. The certification doesn't dictate that you *must* know EJB to become a SCEA,
But it's better for you to know EJB.


SCJA 1.0, SCJP 1.4, SCWCD 1.4, SCBCD 1.3, SCJP 5.0, SCEA 5, SCBCD 5; OCUP - Fundamental, Intermediate and Advanced; IBM Certified Solution Designer - OOAD, vUML 2; SpringSource Certified Spring Professional
K. Tsang
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IMO you do need to know the basics of every J2EE technology, some more in depths, in order to be a good architect. Of course at the end of the day, the architect doesn't get their hands dirty unless it's a really really really small company.

So whether it's EJB, JMS, web services, CORBA, Servlets/JSP, security, XML/JAXP/XSLT, etc you should need to know the basics: at least to the level of when to use what and why (adv/disadv, tradeoffs).


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Hong Anderson
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I think architects should know technology in depth as much as possible, it's very risky that architects don't get their hands dirty (mostly because they don't have enough time, not they don't want to).
The architects must make up by study and practice as much as possible.
Bod Toki
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Joined: Sep 01, 2006
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It's understandable why SUN requires no prerequisites to the SCEA exam. But I think it's very important to for architects to get their hands dirty. I won't be surprised if Oracle would review this requirements when they get their hands on SUN certifications.

IMO.. you should give EJBs and other related J2EE technology some study and practice... save yourself some cash not writing the other exams and then go ahead with your SCEA. But its important you are very familiar with the complete J2EE stack to claim J2EE enterprise architect.
Hong Anderson
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Bod Toki wrote:It's understandable why SUN requires no prerequisites to the SCEA exam. But I think it's very important to for architects to get their hands dirty. I won't be surprised if Oracle would review this requirements when they get their hands on SUN certifications.

For me, the most important missing is analysis part, architects should design domain models and write use cases, the assignments should not provide them.
 
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