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paul wheaton
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http://www.teslamotors.com

0 to 60 in less than 4 seconds. Faster than almost all of the raciest cars.

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Cost per mile about three or four times less than a hybrid

220 ordered the first day orders were allowed.

The price should come down in time and then electric cars for the rest of us should become more available.


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Mark Spritzler
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I think 92K is very reasonable.

Cool looking car.

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paul wheaton
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Oh yeah, and here is another electric car not only outracing some of the raciest cars made, but outracing them by quite a lot!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3624337653720181416
Stan James
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Electric - and steam - motors have maximum torque at zero RPM. Can make for some exciting times if you're not careful.

Tesla motors was founded by computer geeks. The head guy ran a graph for a couple years of battery cost, weight, power and heat until all the lines crossed in the right spot, then started the car company. They did the electronics in silicon valley and outsourced the "car" bits to Lotus. And stole so many Lotus engineers that they had to negotiate a new "no hire" contract. That's from memory ... follow that Wired link on the company site to see all the details.

The car is well up on my "when I win the lottery" list.
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Ashok Mash
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But isn't that like trying to match a F1 car against a road going car? The Modena and Carerra has a lot of weight and technology on them, and are not exactly 'drag race cars'- Over a proper race circuit, with bends etc, I am sure the X1 (?) wouldn't do that better, or if they were to fix up X1 with a roof, better seats, speakers and other normal car accessories, then I think its a proper contest.

Having said that, I do hope the electric car wins every time, but its pretty known fact that the electric motors are better than fossil fuel engines at accelerating to top speed!
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fred rosenberger
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I don't remember which comic said it (possibly Carlin??).

I don't need a car that goes from 0-60 in four seconds. I need a car that goes from 90 to 65 in a microsecond.


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This one does 100-0 in 3.6 seconds. That's pretty close. Watch the movie.



Stopped off for lunch on way to the track...



Running standard pump gas ...

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John Smith
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Impressive acceleration and range, indeed. Price has to come down to 30K, though.
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In the movie "Borat" he was shopping for a car and asking about certain magnetic properties of the vehicle. It is not clear yet whether those properties would be enhanced or degraded as a result of having an electric motor. The engine sound may be important for attracting attention, and engine vibrations may also play a role.
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http://gas2.org/2008/04/23/affordable-electric-cars-coming-to-us-in-2009/
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http://gas2.org/2008/05/27/an-electric-car-you-can-buy-today-the-20k-triac-ev/
W. Joe Smith
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If I can afford it my next car will be all-electric, or at the very least a very good hybrid.

Unfortunately that "just graduated from college holy crap loans" deal might deter that for a while.


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As @Stan James said, electric and steam engines have max torque at zero RPM. Its torque that moves things, not horsepower. Which is why trains and big trucks have power systems with lots of torque.

While the quarter mile time is the American performance standard, its fairly silly. Real drivers don't accelerate wide open for that long.

So, I don't care if some electric cars can be faster (altho you really mean quicker) than gas cars. In the US, its pointless to go over 80 MPH, maybe 90. And useful acceleration happens for five seconds or so.

Until gasoline is taxes to make it cost a dollar a liter, all this hybrid and electric car talk is hype.

You want electric cars, talk to your congressmen and Senators to make them raise taxes. Good luck with that one.
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Carl Quinn from The Java Posse has a Tesla.

See it here and here!

They talk about it in episode 246.


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I worry about people tripping over all the extension leads should electric cars become more popular.


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Joe Ess
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John Smith wrote:Impressive acceleration and range, indeed. Price has to come down to 30K, though.


My Acura RSX Type-S can do 0-60 in the mid 6-second range and gets 32MPG on my daily commute. I can "charge" it at the pump in a few minutes, as opposed to 8 hours for the typical electric car. And it cost $22k. No electric or hybrid car comes close in the bang-for-buck category. Even if an electric car with those specs were available for $30k, it would take years before your pocketbook would see the savings of driving the imaginary electric car over the gas one.


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paul wheaton
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I used to have an all electric vehicle. It was excellent.

Totally quiet. I could drive and hear every little sound - birds and the wind in the trees ....

No smell.

I used it all the time.



And when I ran over Ilja with it, he lived to tell the tale ...

All I can say is that some folks are keen on EV's and some aren't.

I would really like to have an EV again.

fred rosenberger
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Joe Ess wrote:No electric or hybrid car comes close YET in the bang-for-buck category.

fixed that for you!!!

;-)
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fred rosenberger wrote:
Joe Ess wrote:No electric or hybrid car comes close YET in the bang-for-buck category.

fixed that for you!!!
;-)


You could say the same thing about flying cars. I'm not holding my breath for one of those either!
(don't get me wrong, I would love to stick it to the man and go off the grid and run the joemobile with sunlight or rainbows or unicorn poop or whatever. I just don't see it happening anytime soon)
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There was a story on an fresh new upstart to the electric car field yesterday:
The big automakers are racing to bring to market the future of automobile travel, but Coda Automotive is beating them to the punch with its $45,000, five-passenger, four-door sedan. It has already lined up a Chinese partner to build the car and its battery design could become the standard for the industry.

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