well, from what i can tell on my crappy monitor, her eyes are different colors. of course, today, that really means nothing.
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I think they're different, but it's hard to be really sure - they do look very similar in many ways. It could be that the hair and glasses are affecting how I perceive the rest of the face.
The eye color is closer than it looks at first. I have the servlets book, and can see the irises more clearly there. The Servlets model has more shadow over her eyes due to the glasses, and also her pupils are somewhat dilated. But the base color of the irises is about the same, well within the variation that might be expected from different lighting.
The HTML model looks thinner, but that could be because Servlets is leaning back a bit more. HTML's face also seems to have thinner bone structure, but that may be an illusion from the glasses. Anyone want to photoshop the glasses from Servlets over HTML's face for a more even comparison?
HTML's hair looks shorter too, but that's easily explained by a haircut - and other than length and styling, the hair does look very similar.
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The Servlet/JSP girl is even at the Science Station
Definitely two different girls. Different head shape. The second has a longer face. Their smiles are different, shoulder width is different, and even their, um, features are a bit different, tough to see it but if you look real close, one seems fuller than the other.
OK back to the family portion of this post.
It looks close, but when you really look you can see the differences.
I seem to recall the images are public domain. I don't think the authors know the identities of the models. That, or it's a carefully guarded secret to prevent to models from being hit on and stalked by a bunch of Java geeks.
The image Bob found is interesting. Looking just at the face, I'd have been unsure it's the same person as Servlets. But the hair and shirt are identical, so OK, I'm pretty sure it's her. I take this as an example of how glasses and a slightly different camera angle can have a significant difference in how we perceive a face.
Originally posted by Henry Wong: I am surprised that the books don't have a page that credits the actors.
Depends on the contract of the photo shoot. It's very possible the model (i wouldn't call these people actors anymore than I would call a runway model an actor) was paid for their time and such, but that was all they got - a flat fee. I don't think you get a credit for the use of your photo until you're in the 'superstar' category.
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Originally posted by Henry Wong: I am surprised that the books don't have a page that credits the actors.
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IIRC, they didn't actually pose for the book -- it's basically commercial advertising clip art. One of the cover photos -- Servlets, I think, but could have been another -- showed up also in some sort of feminine product ad. Seriously.
Am I nuts, or doesn't anyone else remember this? We had a whole thread about it here...
Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill: ...IIRC, they didn't actually pose for the book -- it's basically commercial advertising clip art...
Wow, I'm surprised. I assumed from the photos' unique perspective (head first), that these were shot specifically for this series. On the other hand, I guess you can get stock photos for amost anything.
Wow, I'm surprised. I assumed from the photos' unique perspective (head first),
This type of pose -- taken from above -- was exceedingly popular during the 2000-2001 timeframe. I remember that at the dot-bomb where I worked at the time, we had one of the designers pose next to a set of stairs while her picture was take from above for the front page of our propaganda web site.
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