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mike darmody
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I'm targeting wireless/mobile app space with my latest career re-invention. I get mixed messages on Java certification. After reviewing Sun website and some blogs, forums, etc, I decided to join javaranch in hopes of getting on the right vector. Any advice or links that I can review? I'll start digging into this website asap. Thanks in advance.
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Welcome to JavaRanch!

What do you want to know exactly about Sun Java certifications? Have a look at Sun's Java certification website for an overview and more information about the available certifications.


Java Beginners FAQ - JavaRanch SCJP FAQ - The Java Tutorial - Java SE 8 API documentation
mike darmody
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great link that helped .... here's my only question ... SCJP does not have any pre-reqs it seems, any guidelines on whether to do SCJA first or go directly to SCJP ?
W. Joe Smith
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mike darmody wrote:great link that helped .... here's my only question ... SCJP does not have any pre-reqs it seems, any guidelines on whether to do SCJA first or go directly to SCJP ?


If you are a total Java greenhorn and a total OOP greenhorn I would go for SCJA first. It tests over fundamental OO concepts along with how they are implemented in Java. If you have OOP experience you may be able to go right into studying for the SCJP, but the SCJA may still be worth a look.


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mike darmody
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that's what I needed to know ... most likely will proceed with scjp ... thanks for the guidance
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I always like to emphasize that SCJA takes a very broad view of Java, where as the SCJA exam is very syntax focussed.

The SCJA credential lets people know you have an understanding of everything from micro devices, to Servlets and JSPs, messaging, OOA&D and of course, syntax.

On the other hand, SCJP is really syntax focussed. To pass the SCJP exam, you need to know some fairly esoteric idiosyncrasies of the JDK. At the same time, a successful SCJP holder need not know a thing about a Servlet or a JSP.

I like the well roundedness of the SCJA exam. Of course, I may be a bit biased.

-Cameron McKenzie
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Cameron Wallace McKenzie wrote:I always like to emphasize that SCJA takes a very broad view of Java, where as the SCJP exam is very syntax focussed.

The SCJA credential lets people know you have an understanding of everything from micro devices, to Servlets and JSPs, messaging, OOA&D and of course, syntax.

On the other hand, SCJP is really syntax focussed. To pass the SCJP exam, you need to know some fairly esoteric idiosyncrasies of the JDK. At the same time, a successful SCJP holder need not know a thing about a Servlet or a JSP.

I like the well roundedness of the SCJA exam. Of course, I may be a bit biased.

-Cameron McKenzie


I bolded what I'm sure Cameron meant to say.

And I'd take his information on the SCJA pretty seriously. I mean he pretty much wrote the book (or two) on it!
mike darmody
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that sheds a different light ... i'm glad i joined this site ... best, concise advice i've gotten on this subject .. i'll give it some more thought ... i'll update this thread when i jump in the pool
 
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