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SCDJWS Study group in Toronto

Arundhathi Menon
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
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Hello all,

Let me know if anyone would be interested in forming a study group for the Web Services certification.

I live in Toronto downtown.

We could draw up schedules , exchange notes , clear doubts , share mock ups.

Hoping to get a good response for this.

Regards
Arundhathi


SCJP , SCWCD , SCBCD , SCDJWS
Deepika Joshi
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Joined: Feb 24, 2009
Posts: 268
As I replied to your earlier message about what study material I am using (will use).
1. Imp - I am new to JWS
2. Imp - I am still trying to figure it out suitable resources, so please take care while considering my thoughts.

- RMH (most famous & best book for JWS)
You can start with ch. 1-5 (XML, SOAP, WSDL) without second thought

6,7,8 - UDDI (I have looked into few pages of ch 6, but would look to more pages, I am not sure about the limit.)

RMH
Ch. 13, 16 -21 (SAAJ, JAXP, JAXR)

(In RMH - you can have over view of JAX-RPC - ch 9, JAX-RPC is replaced with JAX-WS, but I found good to read about JAX-RPC over-view)
use Sun tutorial for basics for JAXB & JAX-WS (try in google you would get it easily)
I am using SOA book (ch 6, 7) for more information of JAX-WS

For Security, Arch, Design, - I got another book "J2EE 1.4 Web Sevice"

Last but not least - Notes of Ivan Krizsan are extremely useful.


I would follow above for iteration one. Once I cover all the topics & have basic knowledge of all objectives. I will start iteration two.
While second iteration (for same study material), I will cover objectives one by one,
e.g
- XML & XML schema from RMH + Ivan Krizsan notes XML + available mock exams.
- Soap from RMH + Ivan Krizsan notes for SOAP + available mock exams.
- WSLD from RMH + Ivan Krizsan notes for WSDL + available mock exams.

Ivan Krizsan notes cover each section of exam objective point by point : So I won't spend time on making notes (as I think I have one of best notes available).

I think with two iterations I would be ready for exam.

Note: there are not JWS 1.5 mock exam as of now. But JWS 1.4 mock exam are still usefull for most of tpoics.
(except for JAX-RPC which is replaced by JAX-WS). You can find mock exams in Links section.

Hope this would be helpful to you.
Deepika Joshi
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clear doubts

Most of the time questions I found in this forum for staudy material only. I am dying to read technical doubts/ questions of other Ranchers, please post here. That would be helpful to test my basics.

Arundhathi Menon
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Thank you for the quick response , Deepika. Yes , once I do get properly started , will be plaguing you and the rest with questions. Right now its a blank slate.

Had you been somewhere close to where I live , it would have been great to swap progress updates and such.

anyway , thank god for the forum!
Deepika Joshi
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I have added ch 14, 15 from RMH also in my list.
Deepika Joshi
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I do not live in Canada but we are not far from exchanging doubts /questions using this forum.

And when I started for this cert, I was blank too. No idead at all, still I do not have idea what I am doing but I think baby steps would be helpful to cover the distance.

My first baby step was
RMH - ch 1 to ch 5.

All the best.
Arundhathi Menon
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Thank you Deepika. You are a huge help !!
Jyothsna Panchagnula
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Hi Arundhati ,

I am interested in joiniing the study group for SCDJWS


thanks,
Jyothsna
Deepika Joshi
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This forum is the study group. And you are already member of it. Please share you problems and suggestions in this forum.

Thanks.
Arundhathi Menon
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Hi Jyotsana,

Do you reside in Toronto as well? Have you decided on which one to take - SCDJWS 4 or 5?
Jyothsna Panchagnula
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Joined: Jul 11, 2005
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Hi Arundhati,

I dont reside in Canada. Yeah, I have decided to go for SCDJWS 5.0.
Looks like its going to take the same time for a beginner to prepare for 4.0 or 5.0


thanks,
Jyothsna
manu saluja
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Joined: Jun 17, 2008
Posts: 5
Hello folks, m also preparing for SCDJWS, and m going for this exam on 8th july.


SCJP 1.4 72% SCWCD1.4 72% SCBCD 1.3 87% SCDJWS 1.4 84% SCEA-1 65% help me for SCEA-2
frank meng
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Joined: Jul 15, 2002
Posts: 19
Count me in. I am living in Toronto.


Certified for SCJP, SCJD, SCDJWS,SCEA and IBM 141- XML& Related Technologies
Vaishnavi Rajagopalan
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Joined: Jun 02, 2009
Posts: 2
Hi,

I live in Downtown Toronto, recently finished SCJP and now interested in SCDJWS. But I dont have any idea about the exam ad the topics whatsoever...
Can I still be included in the study group?

First question - Where do I get the suggested book? Is there a e-book available?

Thanks,
V
Deepika Joshi
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Vaishnavi Rajagopalan wrote:

First question - Where do I get the suggested book? Is there a e-book available?

Thanks,
V



Read this thread,
now read current thread from top (above).

Vaishnavi Rajagopalan
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Joined: Jun 02, 2009
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Thanks for the link Deepika. Glad to see so many posts and links. I already feel like crossing half a way to the final exam.

For now, I am buying a ebook version of the book, and going to start off. Thanks a ton!
Arundhathi Menon
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Vaishnavi , you live in dowtown Toronto??!!! Am jumping up with joy! Feel like crusoe meeting Man Friday

Anyway ,welcome to the study group. I bought RMH from 'Biggest Book Store' - Its on Edward street. Close to the Dundas Square.

To the group in general , I have a doubt - can you give me an XML snippet that follows this DTD -

<!ELEMENT item (#PCDATA | item)* >

How can item have more than one items?? I mean nested tags cant have the same name , can they?

Arundhathi Menon
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Count me in. I am living in Toronto.


Hi Frank. Thats a good number of us.

Like Deepika said , let that not be a restricting constraint though to join the study group.

The prev posts have inidicated that Whizlabs may not be that great for mock up tests. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Arundhathi Menon
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
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Hi all,

could you please clarify my doubts.

1) An entity that contains DTD specifications that are referenced from within the DTD is termed a parameter entity.
could someone please explain more about this?

2) <!ELEMENT item (#PCDATA | item)* > , does this mean <item> can have nested item tags? Or does it mean
item can be an empty tag or have numerous item tags

option1) <item> ..... </item>

or

option2) <item> .... </item>
<item>.....</item>

Thanks in advance!
Deepika Joshi
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Joined: Feb 24, 2009
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Arundhathi Menon wrote:Hi all,

could you please clarify my doubts.

1) An entity that contains DTD specifications that are referenced from within the DTD is termed a parameter entity.
could someone please explain more about this?

2) <!ELEMENT item (#PCDATA | item)* > , does this mean <item> can have nested item tags? Or does it mean
item can be an empty tag or have numerous item tags

option1) <item> ..... </item>

or

option2) <item> .... </item>
<item>.....</item>

Thanks in advance!


Hi Arundhathi ,
This is not answer to your query.

I am not reading DTD as BP approves use of XML Schema.
So DTD is not part of JWS cert.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Are you reading DTD for your interest or for some other reason.

Thanks.
Arundhathi Menon
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Thank you Deepika for the response.

Yes , was reading through DTD out of interest actually. Stumbled over a few things I couldnt quite decipher.
Deepika Joshi
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Joined: Feb 24, 2009
Posts: 268
For quick response - Please use new thread, as your question is not realted to this thread (heading).
or
for quicker response - post it in JavaRanch's WebService forum (I get quick reply to technical question in this forum)
or
since this is related to XML - you can use Javaranch's XML forum (I do not have experience with XML forum)

as per rule you should post question in one forum so pick one of the forum and post the question with relevant heading. and my experience is, it takes time to get answer of technical question in this forum.
(no offence)
Arundhathi Menon
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Thank you Deepika, yup , will keep it in mind
MramaKrishna reddy
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Joined: Jun 17, 2009
Posts: 3
Hi,

I stay in NJ, I am interested in joining a study group for the Web Services certification (SCDJWS 1.5)

I am planning for July.
Let me know, if you have any teleconference, i will also pitch in.

Thanks,
Ram

SCJP , SCWCD
Ram Subramanian
Greenhorn

Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 5
Hi,

i am planning to give SCDJWS (1.5) during last week of August 2009

I have got abundant study material with me.

have completed RMF: first 5 chapters
did study SAAJ as well.
did part of JAX-WS implementation during my practice simulation

i would need a mentor to get to the target asap.
i am actually lost on how to proceed.

regards,
ram.

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