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Who can beat google ?

 
chetan dhumane
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What do you think for how many days google will be the master on internet ?

Who will beat google ?

How to beat google , If we want to ? What are the flaws in their system ?
Does anybody here knows pitfalls of google ?
 
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I have a cat.
 
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google will master internet till we use it...
 
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Milton, could you turn that down just a bit? I know you're allowed to listen to radio, but I thought, maybe, as a personal favor...
 
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I think I can beat Google. As soon as I get my flux capacitor working again....

By the way, does anyone have a DeLorien I could borrow?


But for serious:

Google's downfall (in my opinion) will be spreading themselves too thin. Eventually they will spread too far and have to "trim the fat". When that happens I think the Google we know will not exist anymore.
 
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:Milton, could you turn that down just a bit? I know you're allowed to listen to radio, but I thought, maybe, as a personal favor...

My stapler...

W. Joe Smith wrote:... Google's downfall (in my opinion) will be spreading themselves too thin...

Yes. The demise of all great empires.
 
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:Milton, could you turn that down just a bit? I know you're allowed to listen to radio, but I thought, maybe, as a personal favor...


I said no salt, no salt on the margarita! I will not be leaving a tip!
 
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The key to beating google is choose a niche that google doesn't occupy or doesn't fill very well. For example, thumb-twiddling. Google doesn't have thumbs. I do. Can you see me google! I'm twiddling! You can't stop me! Ahahahahaha!
 
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All javaranchers if they can make a group and develop the next generation search engine which will compete google.
 
chetan dhumane
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I'm ready.
 
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mmm with dinamite?
 
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The other day I was looking for info on Stirling engines, and a twitter search gave me much better links than Google did!
 
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I have beaten Google several times today already.
 
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I heard something about natural search engine technology which *might* be the searching technology for next generation (as it said). If it is, WolframAlpha search engine, which is the brainchild of Stephan Wolfram, can beat Google ultimately.

On WolframAlpha, I searched for "who am I?" and got my IP address as the result, but when I searched for my name, unfortunately it doesn't recognize me. But I got surprised when I searched for "y=sin(x+tan(x))". IMO I think that it may beat Wikipedia, but not Goooogle!
 
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Wolfram is not a search engine.
 
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Bear Bibeault wrote:Wolfram is not a search engine.


As it says it's a Knowledge Engine.
 
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Who will beat google ?

If you talk abt technology.. here is one competitor
 
chetan dhumane
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Cool
 
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Joe Ess wrote:The key to beating google is choose a niche that google doesn't occupy or doesn't fill very well. For example, thumb-twiddling. Google doesn't have thumbs. I do. Can you see me google! I'm twiddling! You can't stop me! Ahahahahaha!





I see absolutely no sign of Google's ultra-powers wearing off. Microsoft's Live search is nowhere near as popular as Google, the Yahoo Publisher Network is nowhere as popular as Google Adsense. Google have a huge array of online applications. Google are preparing for cloud computing... They are on top of everything. Google IS the internet nowadays.
 
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Ruben Matthews wrote: Microsoft's Live search is nowhere near as popular as Google,


Mircosoft Live search? That sooooo history. Bing Is Here. Seems to pass all the test - not sure if anyone uses it though!
 
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People are getting used to with google.
For example when they start using colgate they never think to change the brand even for toothpaste.

Did you get me ?
 
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chetan dhumane wrote:People are getting used to with google.
For example when they start using colgate they never think to change the brand even for toothpaste.

Did you get me ?


True but that's what Microsoft would be saying before Fire Fox came into being.

But I admit the comparison is faulty. IE-6 was always a s**t browser. (I wonder why I still use IE-6 though ) Google on the hand is a pretty good and well accepted product (used by choice not force!) so yes it not going to be replaced by something new.

The fact though is Google never had any real competition. Now it does be it from WolframAlpha, Bing and for that matter twitter. I see a lot of people giving the same comment that Bert Bates made namely twitter gave a better result than Google!

My take? I think Google's got to do what it does best - Innovate.

P.S --> when I say Google I mean the Google search Engine only. Google has far too many quality products in other areas where the competition is no where near!
 
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Google has moved from being a noun to a verb.
Others have a long way to go.
 
chetan dhumane
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Maneesh I disagree with you.
You have to change the habit of becoming used to with any service.
To be brutally frank "Persons who don't want to change can't survive. "
 
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chetan dhumane wrote:
You have to change the habit of becoming used to with any service.


So you are saying one must not use Google, because they might get used to it?You are not even considering if google products give what one requires?
 
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You have to change the habit of becoming used to with any service.

What does this have to do with what Maneesh said? There's no point in switching to an inferior alternative, and that's what the competition is at the moment.
 
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chetan dhumane wrote:
To be brutally frank "Persons who don't want to change can't survive. "


Looks like someone has been reading the Cheese book!
 
chetan dhumane
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But that statement is not false.
ha ha ha..
 
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Let me ask you a question as a sort of answer to your original question.
Why do you want to beat google or want google beaten? And at what?

Disclaimer: I do not work for google. I have not worked for google in the past. I am not related to any of the google employees, past or present. Google has not paid me for this message.
 
chetan dhumane
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My answer : Change is necessary in life.For example , tree grows , child grows.Child do not remain child forever
There are many features that google do not support and we can't create because we do not have that much financial backup(frankly)

Disclaimer : I am not employee of bing.com nor working in Microsoft or @ ask.com etc.
 
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chetan dhumane wrote:My answer : Change is necessary in life.For example , tree grows , child grows.Child do not remain child forever

Don't get me started on those lines.

chetan dhumane wrote:
There are many features that google do not support and we can't create because we do not have that much financial backup(frankly)

What kind of features? If you care to share, I would love to know. This sounds interesting.
 
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See google do not support image search ?It is also not supported by bing.
This is research topic if you want to join me to do research in this area then i'm ready to do it.
 
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Well google does provide google image labeler. I would say they are preparing for that.
Or, were you thinking from the OCR point of view?
 
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For example we will provide image as a search(Instead of text).Then we will see images as a result.
 
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If you mean all the images are of the same size, then that's no big deal.
If you mean returning an image as a result because some portions match or the search image is a part of the big picture (pun intended) then you are talking!
 
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Your second point is right Maneesh.
You are getting my point.
 
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Can I claim for patent ?
If I have any new concept.Will this site provide me any help for patent ?
 
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Well if you got an idea, go for it. Remember, you cannot patent concepts, but rather implementations. All you need is a good lawyer. I do not know where you live, but Mumbai has a patent office. Here's mine http://india.bigpatents.org/view/10355/0650a4477bd
 
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Thanks maneesh but implementing any concept is not the task of single person.
How to find the way.
 
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