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Alan Wanweird
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Ok I'm new to this...

I've never had a portable mp3 player device before..I've never had any "apple" device before....

I thought Apple were famed for their 'ease of use'? So far I'm quite disappointed, sure it plays music ok I guess (mp3 and crappy earphone quality notwithstanding) - but how hard is it to get music onto the damn thing?!!!

I want to just pick up files and dump them on like I would any other USB storage device - but NOOOOO I have to use the proprietary 'iTunes' software

...and as for video I've spent a couple of days so far and have JUST managed to get 1 recording of mine transcoded into a readable mp4 format and accepted into iTunes - but still cant get the damn thing onto the iPod!!!

So much for my dream of having last nights TV transcoded and downloaded ready for me to watch when I pick up the iPod in the morning and head out for the daily commute...!!! GRRRRRRR


(N.B. Problems transcoding *may* having nothing to do with the inadequacies if Apple and might well be more to do with my inability to tame the linux beast of MythTv! )


Henry Wong
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I want to just pick up files and dump them on like I would any other USB storage device - but NOOOOO I have to use the proprietary 'iTunes' software


You might want to just consider drinking the Kool-Aid here. iTunes isn't all bad, and it makes syncing the iPod as simple as docking it for a few minutes.

Henry


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marc weber
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Wow, I'm sorry it's not behaving as expected, but I think you'll be very happy with it once you see how it works. In other words, I agree with Henry. This is about discovering what iTunes has to offer -- not about forcing it to work in some way it wasn't intended.

An iPod is not "any other USB storage device." If it were, then it couldn't deliver iPod features. It's the hardware and software together that make it work, and iTunes is the "other half" of an iPod. Once you get used to using iTunes (which is free) as a music management tool (which it's exceptionally good at), I think you'll see how easy it is to use an iPod.



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Alan Wanweird
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geee - a bit of a winge and you start taking me so seriously!

I'm sure I'll get used to it - its just the 'new' and 'differentness' of things thats taken me a bit by surprise...

..and like I say the biggest problem I have is not an iPod problem at all really - its a linux video-codec problem!!! (which I *will* solve... eventually!)
marc weber
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Originally posted by Alan Wanweird:
...I'm sure I'll get used to it - its just the 'new' and 'differentness' of things thats taken me a bit by surprise...

Cool.

(I agree with you on the headphones. But personal preferences are all over the spectrum on these, so I'm not surprised that the stock ones are marginal. I use Sennheisers.)
Alan Wanweird
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...further introspection on my part suggests that I've been put off by my attempts to find information which clearly I am not supposed to require i.e. HOW to watch videos:

1) Does it come with a groovy manual to read - no
2) After downloading the pdf manual, can I find information about what video formats are supported? No
3) Try to add an mp4 to iTunes library and does it work? No... Does it give me an error saying "This video format not recongnised" or "Codec not supported"? No... it just returns me to my library but with the file not added...


Now I understand that in the "super-user-friendly" paradigm I'm not supposed to care about file formats - but SURELY apple need to tell me what the damn device is capable of doing? So far the only way to find out is to 'suck it and see' or go on a google fishing expedition... Not exactly a friendly approach is it? Videos are HARD to deal with there are LOTS of different formats and even what seems like a 'standard' has lots of latitude within it (hence the first few mp4's I made not being iPod compatible because I didnt know the rules about resolution, frame-rates, bit-rates etc etc)

I expected a paradigm shift - I just didnt expect to be kept so in the dark about how to drive the device!
[ December 26, 2007: Message edited by: Alan Wanweird ]
marc weber
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Instead of using the PDF manual, try using iTunes Help. I haven't used video on an iPod, but I searched iTunes Help for "video formats" and the first support article listed was "Frequently asked questions about viewing and syncing video with iTunes and iPod." It looks like that would be a good place to start.
 
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