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siva kumar
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Hi...,

I am bored working on J2EE applications, I want to quit my job and enjoy life @home.

Any suggestions how to earn without doing any work
Joe Ess
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Marry a wealthy woman.


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or a wealthy man, if that's your thing


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David O'Meara
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Some people leave all their earning to their pets, but I don't think you can marry them.
Vikas Kapoor
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Originally posted by Fred Rosenberger:
or a wealthy man, if that's your thing...

and for that wealthy man too.
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Arvind Mahendra
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Originally posted by David O'Meara:
Some people leave all their earning to their pets, but I don't think you can marry them.


wow thats a broad generalization and a sweeping statement but since this is MD I guess one is allowed to do that. In *most* states you cannot do that.


I want to be like marc
Nicholas Jordan
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I would comment but places where they do that have their own way of thinking - most of those places run farm operations as a cover story for pelt trapping .... google for Bocephus, you will possibly make market in Nutria Fur and can run a profitable Weasel Ranching Instructional Flash Multimedia Presentation from your own comfortable couch potatoe protectorate.


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Pat Farrell
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no need to 'earn without work' all you have to do is pick the correct parents.

Why didn't you pick Bill Gates as your dad?
siva kumar
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Hi All,

Hmm ...

Thanks a lot for your advice ... I think I am better off with my Project manager
Chetan Parekh
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Join politics!


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Rambo Prasad
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Join politics!


Best suggestion if you are living in India


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Pradeep bhatt
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Put your money in IPL (Indian Premier league). I heard that it is a hit. I don't watch it though.


Groovy
ankur rathi
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Originally posted by Prad Dip:
Put your money in IPL (Indian Premier league). I heard that it is a hit. I don't watch it though.


When SRK is there, it's bound to be hit.
Pradeep bhatt
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Originally posted by ankur rathi:


When SRK is there, it's bound to be hit.


Yes of course. Girls follow SRK, boys follow girls. For others there are cheerleaders.
siva kumar
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Hmm... I am really wondering if there is really a way to earn money ( If that means getting rich) yes.

Without doing any of the following

Marrying a women/pet/man ( you guys have a nasty mind)

Becoming a politician/Thief/Robber/Exploiter/Money lender

I just want a decent income to come to my bank account,So I don't have to work every-day, I taught of some thing like.

1.) Writing a super hit novel.

2.) Inventing a new language that could beat Java.

3.) Solving Time/Space-Gravity problem in physics.

4.) Inventing new software that would understand speach.

5.) A new software that automatically generates program from Specification alone.

6.) A computer that can understand directly from your mind -Through a Brain-computer bionic implant. and so on....
Vishal Oberoi
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Originally posted by siva kumar:
Hmm... I am really wondering if there is really a way to earn money ( If that means getting rich) yes.

Without doing any of the following

Marrying a women/pet/man ( you guys have a nasty mind)

Becoming a politician/Thief/Robber/Exploiter/Money lender

I just want a decent income to come to my bank account,So I don't have to work every-day, I taught of some thing like.

1.) Writing a super hit novel.

2.) Inventing a new language that could beat Java.

3.) Solving Time/Space-Gravity problem in physics.

4.) Inventing new software that would understand speach.

5.) A new software that automatically generates program from Specification alone.

6.) A computer that can understand directly from your mind -Through a Brain-computer bionic implant. and so on....

Caffeine withdrawal, I tell you...
Pat Farrell
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Originally posted by siva kumar:
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2.) Inventing a new language that could beat Java.


Your other ideas might have a chance, this one is a sure loser.
New languages are invented every week, many are 'better' than java in some way. Some may be better in many ways. Niklaus Wirth invented many, including Euler, Algol W, Pascal, Modula, Modula-2 and Oberon. He is not rich like Bill Gates or Larry Ellison. I don't think he's wealthy, but he sure has had a good career.

A great language is unlikely to earn the inventor much money. And it has huge barriers to success.

Java for example, is crippled by the lame "C legacy" that it had to include or it would have never succeeded. The language would be more consistant and teach better OO if there were no 'int, byte, or char' data types.
Henry Wong
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New languages are invented every week, many are 'better' than java in some way. Some may be better in many ways. Niklaus Wirth invented many, including Euler, Algol W, Pascal, Modula, Modula-2 and Oberon. He is not rich like Bill Gates or Larry Ellison. I don't think he's wealthy, but he sure has had a good career.


Still waiting for English to be a computer language -- nothing like conversing with a computer that sounds like Majel Barrett.


Hmmm.... Now that I think about it, we don't know if the computer is speaking english. It could be the universal translator that is doing the interface work.

Henry


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marc weber
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Originally posted by siva kumar:
...So I don't have to work every-day, I taught of some thing like.

1.) Writing a super hit novel.

2.) Inventing a new language that could beat Java.

3.) Solving Time/Space-Gravity problem in physics.

4.) Inventing new software that would understand speach.

5.) A new software that automatically generates program from Specification alone.

6.) A computer that can understand directly from your mind -Through a Brain-computer bionic implant. and so on....

So pick one of these, and get to work.

Seriously, aren't these the reverse of what you want? These all represent a huge amount of work for very little money -- with the hope that someday all that work will pay off.

There's a fundamental difference between "I want to do this," and "I want this to happen to me." Without that distinction, winning a lottery fits just as well on that list.


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Manish Hatwalne
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Originally posted by marc weber:
There's a fundamental difference between "I want to do this," and "I want this to happen to me." Without that distinction, winning a lottery fits just as well on that list.


Well said!
Manish Hatwalne
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To the OP:

Idea is to make sure that your passive income exceeds your expenses. Generating passive income might take lot of planning, execution and work though! I found "Rich Dad, Poor Dad", as an excellent book for this.

Generating substantial passive income is not easy though - you may get it in terms of house/commercial property rent, royalty and many other things. Just one idea - imagine you invest 4-5 Lacs INR in a car and give it on rent to BPO - it could fetch you around 20k per month or so, and there could be several such ideas. See which one is feasible for you. But you'll have to plan & execute it all yourself meticulously. If you're serious - start thinking about this now... and have concrete plans instead of hoping as Marc rightly said.
Nicholas Jordan
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Originally posted by Pat Farrell:
Java for example, is crippled by the lame "C legacy" that it had to include or it would have never succeeded. The language would be more consistant and teach better OO if there were no 'int, byte, or char' data types.


Before I forget, when a poster says: "I want to ..." that is different from saying "I will ..." or "I am going to ..." When someone ( myself included ) says I want to they may be reporting that they have a desire, not that they are considering action.

Anyway, on with the ham-fisted shame-to-the-players slam on a One True Language - Geek Speak of Computer World and likely replacement for inferior computer coding legacy codification schema

{   Observers please note that PF is informed on the matter and can defend himself - watch it when giants clash: There may be some bar change left laying around. IOW pieces of boardwall from the Saloon left in salvageable condition for resale to latecomers.}

'Strongly typed' codex places on the beginner disentangling real world from data. E.G. The beginner, on reading that in typed languages new types, derived from existing types, may be constructed then ( in this case: my own experience ) tries to make the computer a marshmallow or something. You can list the groceries in a list but to date there is minimal progress on a George Jetson world.

To give you some positioning power, I have never made it past Chapter One of Kenneth C. Louden's Compiler Construction and Principles. Also, I have not had any exposure to type-free programming syntax. Nor have I had any time teaching, so I have no metric for how human nature biases the implementation of programming frameworks in human mind(s). For me, it is real simple: Shop and practical, everyone else is some theorist or something.

OO has a missing concept, that of time, something which is inherenet in procedural. ( goto or not ) First, we turn the machine on. Some would be suprised how OO can overlook that. Just as one walks into a room today and all manner of utility is automated, sota like when Brit Spears speaks to the masses. There is no concept of time, a somewhat blurry but functional enmasse IS .... it just is. Timeless.

I wonder if Hanna Montanna is any better at this. Just from ten feet away, looking at the cardboard posters in the convienience store I think ( feel ) this is someone who can take an action and move it forward to a subsequent action. I bet Brit Spears does not wear a watch. How would one measure time in an OO sense? If the object just 'exists' there is no such thing as Time.

I am actually seeking here, not hammering. I look at this OO stuff and I have a mild, sub-cranial shockwave: How are the coders going to trap runaway pointers and AVL writebacks if the observer ( student of OO ) sitting in the citadel has never had any interest in hardware jobs such as routing, switching ,configuring and remembering clumsy networking commands.

In other words, given datatype we can construct [....],[....],[....] locations in transient register for signal. Without such definitive metric, I fail to grasp the 'sublte nuance of words' ala politicos and so on having any place or position in the programming of the machine.

IOW - first shots free. Punch me to the floor. I gotta see this, I really gotta see it.
Joanne Neal
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Originally posted by Nicholas Jordan:
first shots free.


Whisky please.


Joanne
Sri Anand
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/****

I just want a decent income to come to my bank account,So I don't have to work every-day, I taught of some thing like.

1.) Writing a super hit novel.

2.) Inventing a new language that could beat Java.

3.) Solving Time/Space-Gravity problem in physics.

4.) Inventing new software that would understand speach.

5.) A new software that automatically generates program from Specification alone.

6.) A computer that can understand directly from your mind -Through a Brain-computer bionic implant. and so on....
************/


Doing any of the above will involve lot of work
Sri Anand
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buy lot of lottery tickets everyday , because "Luck" is the only way you can earn without working
Pat Farrell
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Originally posted by Raghunandan Mamidala:
buy lot of lottery tickets everyday , because "Luck" is the only way you can earn without working


Actually, if you study the statistics, you will find that you have a positive, but very very tiny chance of becoming 'rich' from the lottery. If you buy a lottery ticket, you only increase the probability by a very tiny amount.

In the US, lotteries are sold to politicians as great ways to get free money for schools, etc. They are, in fact, a great tax on those that flunked math.
Pat Farrell
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Originally posted by Nicholas Jordan:
OO has a missing concept, that of time, something which is inherenet in procedural.


I think this is overly broad. I'll agree that languages designed before the invention of the 'come from" and "come from depending upon" tend to make the chronographic relationships more explicit.

Its not hard to add time in OO implementations, but you do have to think to do it.

Actually, time is missing in a lot of things. A lot of statistical analysis ignores time, because moving to time series analysis requires new tools.

Others have postulated about English as a computer language. I can't see it, I can hardly every tell what my PHB is staying and in theory, she is using English.
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I have it on good authority that if you were to play your guitar on the MTV, that ain't working -- that's the way to do it: money for nothing, and your chicks for free.

But, y'know, that's just hearsay.


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Onkar Joshi
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Originally posted by David O'Meara:
Some people leave all their earning to their pets, but I don't think you can marry them.


Oh well, it happens: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1072041.cms


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Pat Farrell
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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
money for nothing, and your chicks for free.

But, y'know, that's just hearsay.


You know that song was about how MTV was ruining music. They wrote it because they were talented musicians but not beautiful people, and all that MTV wanted was sexy singers. They did the video in a cartoon so they could be as beautiful as they wanted.

Kinda like how J2EE has made it trivial to make complex Web applications in java.
Nicholas Jordan
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Originally posted by Pat Farrell:
I think this is overly broad. I'll agree that languages designed before the invention of the 'come from" and "come from depending upon" tend to make the chronographic relationships more explicit.


Intentionally so,  { }  to give you something to enter with. What I did there was work to build on a discussion well over a year ago, one in which I did not vent the full range of The Idaho Rain Doll's musical hydrogen. ( i dunno, gotta throw some meaningless drivel in to participate ) Time, as a dimension, has some interesting properties. These are not generally recognized as well as Dr. Eye In Stein's Accelerated Alcohol.

{For beginners - a note, PF is specially trained with field experience in an area of computer science where such seemingly implausible constructs are a routine area of study. This called Parody at the bench of law and is protected by Kabuki Theater.}

I recognized that OO proponents would many times over have constructed a 'sequence' paradigm that brings ordering to processing. Routinely we would see a beginner post: Is Java a Perfect OO Language. A commentator described the usual interaction between proponents of OO and the poster. I took the matter and worked it in Meaningless Drivel, positing that the original question ( of perfection - OO ) was in fact a reliability issue. Additionally I was able to do some work with interested me a great deal more than the OO paradigm: Off by one in the human mind. I brought a powerful tool to the work, that of self-recognition without introspection.

I do not have sufficient statistical analysis skills to differentiate whether ( for example ) finite automa could be applied to moving time series. I will leave Dysarthria v Dysphasia baseline studies to Kabuki Theater on a remote island in Kagoshima, Japan.

You have, however you arrived at it, played my soul like a craiglist. What I hope to do is work towards a 'off-by-one' detector of human skills that neutralizes bias in social skills. Probably that would not be something I want after I had it but we see routinely groupings or clustering of thought led by a faux-war of TeleTubbies v JellyBabies.

Its not hard to add time in OO implementations, but you do have to think to do it.


That would be a legitimate goal of my proposed work: Detection of who is thinking such that promotion, assignment and other conduct of business could be made meritoriously by Conway's methods vis-a-vis deceitful ( soft ) methodologies. When I first came here I was too hard on them, they are not a bunch of wild boar hogs.

Dr. Plantains has conducted work on the idiomatics of words. In Venezuela, a yo-yo is a traditional dish made of two short slices of fried ripened banannas. Some Yo-Yo's are missing a lot more than Time. Lets us take for example the government myth of "organized crime". Anyone who knows anything about the matter realizes that such oxymora are Yo-Yo's for the taking. Lets drop the OO part and ( can I get way on out there or what ? ) take the Y-Y part. Okay, I got something already. Each "Y' in Y-Y recognizes ( graphs or symbolizes ) a 'split' in the Time-Progression of ( someone's) thinking. Notice that there are two Y's. I see this as a shift.

(....) A lot of statistical analysis ignores time, because moving to time series analysis requires new tools.


Then would traditional stats need new tools to do the shift detection?

Others have postulated about English as a computer language. I can't see it, I can hardly every tell what my PHB is staying and in theory, she is using English.


Can you tell what they are saying on the You-Tube? All I get is:


For my work, I am looking at Hamiltonian distances Y<SUB>(0)</SUB> - Y<SUB>(1)</SUB> in Thinkers when contrasted to Emoters diverge at differing rates and speculate that chronographic relationships are better modeled by DAWG(s) for the shift-detection. For example, for me the term Overly Broad evokes images of The Amazon. For Y sub one, ( non-thinkers ) it is a game of 'get them on your side' - destruction of the The Empire of Deceit is about as unlikely as my cat being able to talk like I had it do in one of my lucid dreams.
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Others have postulated about English as a computer language. I can't see it, I can hardly every tell what my PHB is staying and in theory, she is using English.


Well, it doesn't have to be perfect english. I would settle to program in a language like....



Henry
Pat Farrell
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Is Java a Perfect OO Language.


Its not clear that Java is even an OO language, let alone perfect.

The search of the perfect is the enemy of the good.


I do not have sufficient statistical analysis skills to differentiate whether ( for example ) finite automa could be applied to moving time series. I will leave Dysarthria v Dysphasia baseline studies to Kabuki Theater on a remote island in Kagoshima, Japan.


Silly boy, Alan Turning shows that a finite automa can represent any computer algorithm. If you can program it, you can use a FSA.


Plantains ... traditional dish made of two short slices of fried ripened banannas.


I'm not an expert on this, but I thought plantains were yellow vegitables, where as bananas are fruits. Of course, bananas are my favorite, because they have appeal.
Nicholas Jordan
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Originally posted by Pat Farrell:
I'm not an expert on this, but I thought plantains were yellow vegitables, where as bananas are fruits. Of course, bananas are my favorite, because they have appeal.


That's an embedded joke from the previous work on OO. The originator holds a doctorate and so we can use the term as intended. An ability to work in concepts detached from personal slights, the ability monkey around B-Trees like Kabuki Theatere. I accomplished virtual zero while working on this ( since last post ) I did arrive at some nomenclature, yellow fruits but useful. Given that You Tube may model the U-Tube ( the glass eyed monster ) we <em>could</em> take a filter at You Tube as our model. We would then be examining:
  •   1) the networks of interest can be modelled as a collection of abstract single-user single-task machines connected at their user interfaces;


  •  
  •   2) the security of such a net can be evaluated by comparing the cost of a successful attack to its value;


  •  
  •   3) the cost of attack can be evaluated in terms of the work effort to the attacker and that the value can be evaluated by calculating the how much the success reduces the cost of subsequent attacks. Illustrations are given of how success against one node reduces the cost of attack against other nodes.

  • Doing so in the context of a filter as an operator trained for marginal cases that may require reporting to prosecutorial badge or may take minmal approaches. We discount such things that only powerful equipment and techniques detect. Doing so in the veggietales of RockHeadNation is non-trivial. If we discover useful technique, we can move to General Computing - possibly speculating on a training schedule.

    The search of the perfect is the enemy of the good.

    I was working the Y<SUB>(0)</SUB> - Y<SUB>(1)</SUB> trying to identifiy differentiators that are non-obvious and effective. My cat did not talk to me in the dream state nor did I hear any Yellow Yellers. ( they yelled at people when we came up ) - nothing, not even the vacum of an absence. Trying to draw on real experience after waking I noticed that some portions of an unselected populaton will rely on beliefs for decison making. A stochastic decision would be better. Thinking may not reveal any greater useful information than the belief system and both tend to stick in tendencies.

    Thus, our B-Tree could be a Belief ( Tree ): Thinkers - Emoters could differentiate the Y-Y, revealing direction reversals, rate diffs or delta-rate diffs including chaotic delta-rates vis-a-vis pre-fractal randomization models.

    Heck, we may discover a new randomizing paradigm. We might even .....

    See, that's where I am going. Just to hold a non-trivial discussion obliterates some nomenclature to "Valid medical, scientific or commercial purpose.". Then, on Alan's work that you cite we can investigate a modelling of Thinkers-Emoters to get the (0)-(1) to detect signal. Emplacement at the moderator's position would have profound bias for T/E bringing back Horse Apples for neighbor hood warfare by silly boys as opposed to Mall Weasel models of silly boys.

    We have a real-world, actually-happend. So far I have been giving ad-hoc's. Eg, I like bananas ~ now that I find you do I could work the banana angle. I am not an expert either, I got the info from Wikki. So I could speculate on the facillitation of large-scale neural-networks or something. Instead: I was walking over the past few days at a park that has a gravel road some portion of a mile in length. Many back problems in the human population are a direct consequence of heels on shoes. It throws the back alignment such that small diffs in musculature result in cramping and misalignment. Walking on gravel works the entire support structure in a healing manner.

    No less than three approaches were made. If we look at the U-Tube, what we get for alleviate is a branded pitch for a pill. So we could say that the search for the perfect ( U-Tube - The Glass Eyed Monster ) is the enemy of the good ( exercise ).

    In Motion we Trust, everyone else we crush. - Rubber Ducky.
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    Originally posted by Nicholas Jordan:
    My cat did not talk to me in the dream state


    "My Cat is Object oriented" was one of my favorite peer reviewed papers of 1990 or so.

    Another professor defined a RISC computer as "any computer designed after 1985"


    "Valid medical, scientific or commercial purpose.".


    You do realize that American medicine has nearly nothing to do with science, right?
    Nicholas Jordan
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    Originally posted by Pat Farrell:
    You do realize that American medicine has nearly nothing to do with science, right?


    Define science. Realize, we are dealing with powerful lobbys. For the sake of legitimacy, I turn to medicine ( American ) when some things fail. For others, I turn away from American medicine. Take for example contamination of water supplies by large dairy operations. One has to buy filters and so on, the decision ( science ) of which is beyond the emotives - the emotives just hire someone to do it. It then costs 35-4,500 dollars where it costs several hundred dollars if you do all the work yourself.

    I do not have and cannot afford the methodologies which contemporary medical science schedules for treatment ( this condition ) so I have to achieve healing by alternative approaches. The human body has a lot of relatives in the fungal colonies, few if any in the bacterial regions.

    I fixed the gastro-intestinal imbalance without American Medicine, guess how. You may have to call in backup information sources because you will not find the methodology in medicine for profit. Senator Joseph McCarthy probably should investigate.

    "My Cat is Object oriented" was one of my favorite peer reviewed papers of 1990 or so.


    I am not familiar with the paper, does it google or do I need the cite?

    Another professor defined a RISC computer as "any computer designed after 1985"


    Then prof works for apple or CDC - Intel continues the rich instruction set model, though some of it is in the compiler - some supposedly register controlled block mem-mem transfers are in fact just listed as mov reg,mem / mov mem,reg in the assembler pass before linking. I would have to know the basis of the prof's assertion to understand it.
     
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