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Timeout SCJD Assignment

Fernando Franzini
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Hi for all

I've read here so many time the SCJD dont have timeout to finish assignment......but in my e-mail that I receved from SUN is writte:

Dear Fernando A X Franzini,

We have been notified that you have registered for the Sun Java Developer Assignment.

You are now authorized to access your assignment by logging into your account in the Sun Assignment Watcher database at:

http://www.certmanager.net/sun_assignment.

For your convenience, we have reset your username and password.

Your new username is : xxxxx

Your password is : xxxxxx

Once you have logged in, follow the steps below:

Select the “test history” button

Select the “assignments” button

Follow the links to download your assignment.

You have one year to complete the SCJD assignment.


And now ? I have one year ???


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Roberto Perillo
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Howdy, Fernando!

Recently, the policy has changed... now the candidates have one year to complete the assignment. So yes, you have one year, and I'm quite sure it starts counting at the moment they give you permission to download the assignment, and you have one year to complete the assignment and take the essay exam. I'm not 100% sure, but I guess this is it.


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Roel De Nijs
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Hi Fernando,

The policy in regard to the time limit has recently changed, more info in this thread. So if you purchased the voucher after this period, you have to finish it within a year. If you purchased it before this period (like me, Anne Grace,...), you don't have that limitation. I purchased it in April 2007 (I believe, so long ago ) and submitted May 15th, 2009.

Kind regards,
Roel


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Fernando Franzini
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Yess....I dont have choice....uffffff
Thanks folks.
Roberto Perillo
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I just checked the SCJD page, and it says: "Time limit: 12 months from assignment download".
Gert-Jan den Besten
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Roberto Perillo wrote:I just checked the SCJD page, and it says: "Time limit: 12 months from assignment download".

It seems the scoring criteria have been changed as well


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Roel De Nijs
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Hi Gert-Jan,

Seems you are right and you are the 1st one to notice it, I guess.

Just 2 major changes:
  • the importance of the GUI nearly doubled (70 points instead of 40)
  • new item "Language Fluency"


  • And surprise, surprise... Locking is still a major part

    Anybody with more info about these changes? Will everybody receive a grade based on this system? What is understood under "Language Fluency"? ...

    Kind regards,
    Roel
    K. Tsang
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    The scoring system stated on the website was like that already when I began my SCJD in Dec2008. However, the real scoring system comes with your assignment instructions. So the website info is just a guide. The real deal is in the instructions. Follow your instructions more than the website.

    The 12-month time period was official back in late Feb09.


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    Roberto Perillo
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    Roel De Nijs wrote:What is understood under "Language Fluency"?


    That's a good question, my good buddy Roel! I still don't know if this is related to fluency in English or in Java
    Roel De Nijs
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    K. Tsang wrote:The scoring system stated on the website was like that already when I began my SCJD in Dec2008.


    So maybe it was already there when my company purchased the scjd (in april 2007 ), because I didn't check the website, just said: "i want to take the scjd certification, so order it and get me Andrew's book".

    Kind regards,
    Roel

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    Roberto Perillo wrote:
    Roel De Nijs wrote:What is understood under "Language Fluency"?
    That's a good question, my good buddy Roel! I still don't know if this is related to fluency in English or in Java

    I hope it's not English - I only speak Strine!


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    Cristian Aionesa
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    Hi to all,

    Fernando, I have the same problem as you do. Today I wrote to Sun:

    "I've downloaded the assignement 9 months ago and in your mail you said that I have 12 months to complete it. I know that the voucher for the essay exam is valid for 12 months. About the assignement I know that I have no time limit. I will not be able to take the exam in the 12 months that I was supposed to, but I hope that when I'll finish the assignement I can buy a new voucher, because the old one will be expired, and upload my assignement and take the exam.

    Can you please tell me if I'm right with this and otherwise clarify this situation for me?"




    And this is the respononse that I got back:



    "Hello Cristian,

    You can still complete and upload your assignment. If your voucher for the essay expires you will need to purchase a new one as vouchers can not be extended. We highly recommend completing both as soon as possible.

    Please let us know if we may be of further assistance. Thank you for choosing Sun products and services."



    As far as I can tell the assignment will be valid even if the 12 months expires. This contradicts the info from Sun site: "
    Time limit: 12 months from assignment download ". I don't know what to believe!! What do you think?
    Vasya Pupkin
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    1) if your voucher expires, schedule an exam and reschedule it later. This will buy you some time.
    2) 1 year limit is only for newly purchased assignments.


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    Cristian Aionesa
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    Vasya Pupkin wrote:1) if your voucher expires, schedule an exam and reschedule it later. This will buy you some time.
    2) 1 year limit is only for newly purchased assignments.


    1. About the voucher expiration, I called at Prometric and I was told that I have to schedule the exam and take the exam until the voucher expires. I was planning to do what you said.
    2. I purchased my assignment on 22/11/2008, so I should have just one year to finish, but as you can see from the e-mail that I've got back from Sun, it says that I can upload it even if the 12 months expire.
    Roel De Nijs
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    Hi Cristian,

    According to this thread you have unlimited time for completing your assignment (because you downloaded it before May 2009).

    Concerning voucher expiration: it's true they can't be extended, but they certainly can replace it with another voucher. So if you ask it kindly to the sun education services of your country (where you bought the voucher I guess) they might replace it...

    Kind regards,
    Roel
    Cristian Aionesa
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    Roel De Nijs wrote:Hi Cristian,

    According to this thread you have unlimited time for completing your assignment (because you downloaded it before May 2009).

    Concerning voucher expiration: it's true they can't be extended, but they certainly can replace it with another voucher. So if you ask it kindly to the sun education services of your country (where you bought the voucher I guess) they might replace it...

    Kind regards,
    Roel


    Thanks a lot Roel! I knew about this thread but I didn't pay enough attention at the date that Sun mentioned
    Patrick Jansen
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    Joined: Jan 30, 2009
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    What is the truth? I downloaded my assignment on January 21, 2009 and after that I mailed to SUN asking them to tell me what is the time limit to complete the assignment. Here is what I received:


    From:
    "Sun Certification Support" <certification@educationservicesgroup.com>, Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:01 PM

    Dear Patrick Jansen,

    Thank you for contacting Sun Certification Customer Support. We are happy to assist you.

    You have one year to complete the assignment. We are working on updating our website. We aplolgize for the confusion.

    Please let us know if we may be of further assistance. Thank you for choosing Sun products and services.

    Sincerely,

    Michele Castle

    Sun Certification Customer Support
    who2contact@sun.com


    What do you think?


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    Roel De Nijs
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    Hi Patrick,

    Don't cross-post please. I answered your question already in this thread.

    Kind regards,
    Roel
    Jeffry Kristianto Yanuar
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    After all, 1 year is a plenty of time. I finished the exam within 3 or 4 months.


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