huh?? JEE 6?

[Bess Moore]

Hi guys,

i completed the stage 1 for SCEA 5 and now working on my part 2.
i just discover that sun are collecting training and certification survey on JEE6 does it means that the SCEA5 is going to get bin?

i am very worry
bess

[Cameron Wallace McKenzie]

Nope, it won't be retired for a long, long time. I would imagine the SCEA5 cert will last as long as the previous one did, if not longer.

SCEA is less API dependent than say the SCJP or SCWCD exams, as architecture is a higher level. I bet we could see JEE6 or JEE7 with a minimal impact on the SCEA exam.

These exams are difficult to update. Sun likes updating them as much as we like studying for new ones.

You're safe. Not to worry. Sun is always collecting information on their products and versions. It's what corporations do. Worry when they stop doing these types of surveys.

-Cameron McKenzie

[Hong Anderson]

Where did you find those surveys?

[K. Tsang]

Cameron Wallace McKenzie wrote:Nope, it won't be retired for a long, long time. I would imagine the SCEA5 cert will last as long as the previous one did, if not longer.

I disagree on this one. According to the presentations at JavaOne 08 and 09 by Humphrey Sheil, the SCEA part 1 exam will reflect hence change/updated when the new version comes out. v6, v7, v8 etc

from JavaOne 08
The future for the exam
* Will be refreshed again for JEE 6, and 7, and 8..
* Part One requires direct work every time the spec is updated
* Parts Two and Three are less specification sensitive
* The exam now should be far less “dateable” (E10000 cringe moment)
- Can be upgraded to new spec revisions fairly quickly
* Sun tell me they have plans to really increase the profile and perceived value of the SCEA worldwide

from JavaOne 09
Looking forward – JEE 6 and beyond
* JEE 6 version of the exam expected (2010)
* Part one will change to explicitly target this version of the platform
* Part two – you can target either JEE 5 or JEE 6 – whichever you prefer (it has always been like this)
* Part three is specification agnostic
* It is unlikely that the certification will split to complement the profiles

So if you are really "in" with technology, you will need to do upgrades (the part 1 exam) when new version comes up.

[Mihai Lihatchi]

I also read the presentation on the Humphrey's site following a JavaRanch link.
This seems a bit too soon to me. Aren't people supposed to get experience with the technology to get certified?
JEE5 is not that old after all (at least not where I work).

Anyway I am also a bit confused so I will try to pass this version before the new one gets into beta (I just passed the beta for SCEA 5.0 in october 2007). I hope they allow at least 3 years for an official certification exam. Should I prepare directly for beta of SCEA 6 (that should save some money)?

BTW a bit off topic : what are the changes/evolutions in JEE6 with respect to JEE5 ?

[J J Wright]

BTW a bit off topic : what are the changes/evolutions in JEE6 with respect to JEE5 ?

Look at the Java EE 6 SDK Preview Release Notes

I bet we could see JEE6 or JEE7 with a minimal impact on the SCEA exam.

I hope not. At the very least they need to acknowledge that many of the Core J2EE Patterns have either drastically changed in their implementation, are no longer relevant, or have become anti-patterns. If they don't, part 1 will become an anti-pattern!

[sampurna Rao]

Hi Iam not clear ...

1) Is it really advisable to take the exam in current version in this year ? Or better to take it in newer version coming in next year ?
2) If I cleared part1 in this year then can I take part2 and Part3 in next year? How long this certification will valid if exam will update for newer version in next year?

-Sam

[Hong Anderson]

sampurna Rao wrote:Hi Iam not clear ...

1) Is it really advisable to take the exam in current version in this year ? Or better to take it in newer version coming in next year ?
2) If I cleared part1 in this year then can I take part2 and Part3 in next year? How long this certification will valid if exam will update for newer version in next year?

-Sam

1. It depends, but if you're ready why do you wait?
2. Yes. The current version should be valid for quite long time.