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Rambo Prasad
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Are WWF(world wrestling federation) wrestling games fake or real ones.Are the results (winning & lossing)predetermined before the match starts.?Do they give really heavy punches to the opponents as we see in TV or is it just fake action..If it is fake then why do so many people come to see it?


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Vikas Kapoor
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I don't know about WWF but something like LionHeart is really active in USA?
Arvind Mahendra
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Its definitely fake(scripted), but thats not to say these people aren't taking a real beating doing what they do. Even for a sport thats fake, it has had the most number of casualties of any sport, so its not like its free of danger. But yes overall its pure entertainment where every move is exaggerated to awe the crowds.


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Originally posted by Rambo Prasad:
If it is fake then why do so many people come to see it?

The same reason so many people go to see Hollywood movies that they know are fake - because people find them entertaining.


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And common sense will tell you that if the "piledriver" wasn't a coordinated move, the receiver should get his neck broken. And this is a move that is done constantly.

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Deepak Bala
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We should have a WWF here at the ranch. Bear would easily qualify for the post of Stone cold


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Why do college and Olympic wrestlers have so much trouble breaking into the professional ranks?
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Originally posted by Frank Silbermann:
Why do college and Olympic wrestlers have so much trouble breaking into the professional ranks?


Because college and Olympic wrestlers are actually wrestling. professional wrestling is theater.

While others say its "scripted" I think that is not accurate. The roles are well known, there is the heel, typically a college educated person, and the good guy, who drinks beer and drives a truck. So from the start, the winner is known. But I believe that the individual moves are not "scripted" as much as communicated. The heel gets the upper hand for a while, to build tension. I expect that there are hand signals or other codes that allow the performers to agree on the next sequence.

In general, the actors are actually very athletic and graceful. Like dancers, they respond to gentle communication.
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Originally posted by Deepak Bala:
Bear would easily qualify for the post of Stone cold


However, given the athleticism involved, I doubt that'll be my next career change. However, just in case, do you think this is a mean enough look?



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Originally posted by Pat Farrell:

While others say its "scripted" I think that is not accurate. But I believe that the individual moves are not "scripted" as much as communicated. I expect that there are hand signals or other codes that allow the performers to agree on the next sequence.

I'm not sure I agree. I have had training in 'stage combat'. We learned sword, quarterstaff, and fist fighting. EVERY move was choreographed, down to the smallest movement. This stuff is DANGEROUS, and if you are not perfectly in sync, you can get seriously hurt.

I was practicing a fight once without my normal partner. There were several teams learning the same fight, so we had a bunch of 'A's, and a bunch of 'B's. My partner was absent one day, as was this other guys, and we both knew the opposite side of the fight. We teamed up, and ran the fight at about 30% speed. he almost broke my finger when he hit it with the staff, simply because our timing was just a LITTLE different.

basically we spent an entire semester in college learning about six minutes of fighting.
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Originally posted by fred rosenberger:
EVERY move was choreographed, down to the smallest movement. This stuff is DANGEROUS, and if you are not perfectly in sync, you can get seriously hurt.


I agree, I once did West Side Story with real switchblades. Great fun to drop a knife and have it stick point first into the stage, which shocked the audience.

But a WWF event is several hours long. Your three months training for six minutes of show seems about right to me. I simply can't imagine how they would choreograph three hours of show.
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my guess is that since there are a finite number of moves, they do them ALL THE TIME, and they are experts at what they do, they don't rehearse as much as you or i would for a play. Plus, they can get away with a little more, because they are really hitting each other. you don't need to choreograph your 'fake' reaction to getting hit when you are really getting hit.

but i still believe the entire fight is scripted.
 
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