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I'm NOT Software Agnostic!

Scott Selikoff
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I got spam from a recruiter (damn my spam filters!) and part of it read:

"You must be a hands on programmer. The ideal candidate is software agnostic."

I hope we can all work to become software agnostic! Step 1: There is no such thing as software.
[ September 18, 2008: Message edited by: Scott Selikoff ]

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Henry Wong
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There is no such thing as software.


Is this similar to "There is no spoon"? ...

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Paul Clapham
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Originally posted by Scott Selikoff:
I hope we can all work to become software agnostic! Step 1: There is no such thing as software.
No, step 1: I am not convinced that software exists.
marc weber
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Originally posted by Paul Clapham:
No, step 1: I am not convinced that software exists.

That's what Vista says.


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Ulf Dittmer
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Well, Vista is no fun any more.


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Bear Bibeault
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Saw the new commercial last night. Even lamer than the Seinfeld commercials, but at least I can see what they were trying to accomplish. Poorly.

But back on topic: I write my code by Ouija Board.


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Ernest Friedman-Hill
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Pascal's software conjecture: if software exists, then by expressing belief in it, one can reap the benefits of belief. If software does not exist, then since belief is cheap, it doesn't hurt you to believe in it. Therefore, it's the best policy to believe in software whether it exists or not.


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Scott Selikoff
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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
Therefore, it's the best policy to believe in software whether it exists or not.


Ah, but that would disqualify you from applying for this 'job'. Although it also implies that anyone who is hired for the position is fundamentally flawed.
Henry Wong
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Originally posted by Scott Selikoff:


Ah, but that would disqualify you from applying for this 'job'. Although it also implies that anyone who is hired for the position is fundamentally flawed.


I don't believe agnostic means that the belief is that it doesn't exist -- with agnostic it is still possible to prove or disprove. There is no "faith", nor any "scientific barriers" to hold the belief, one way or another.

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[Henry]: I don't believe agnostic means that the belief is that it doesn't exist -- with agnostic it is still possible to prove or disprove. There is no "faith", nor any "scientific barriers" to hold the belief, one way or another.

I think that depends on the variety of agnosticism. Strong agnostics generally assert that it is not even possible to prove something one way or another. Weak agnostics generally believe that proof may be possible, but it hasn't happened yet.
marc weber
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Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
Saw the new commercial last night. Even lamer than the Seinfeld commercials...

Metadata found on Microsoft's creative copy used in its 'I'm a PC' ad reveals that the graphics were actually produced using Macs...

... Microsoft was not only using Macs but also Adobe's software in place of its own Expressions Studio, which the company bills as software that "takes your creative possibilities to a new level."

Ref: Apple Insider - Microsoft's 'I'm a PC' campaign created with Macs
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Easily explained.
Doug Slattery
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If it doesn't exist, or you don't believe in its existence, then it must be vaporware. You can go to a place called Zen to see it. There's lots of it there. It all makes perfect sense in Zen. There's a lot of people there from a place called Marketing that regularly visit.

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