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We've got some news from Sun concerning recent changes to the SCJP exam.
First a little background about how Sun ALWAYS administers their certification exams:
All of Sun's exams go through rigorous processes during their creation, AND during their "live" lifetime. First off, the exam's objectives are created and verified. Next, new questions are created using an iterative creation / review / beta test / modification cycle. Once questions have gone "live" their performance is also monitored. Sun checks to see if the questions become too easy or too hard over time, or if questions cause too much confusion. When Sun determines that certain questions aren't performing well in the field, those questions are either fixed and retested, or they are retired.
Finally, Sun wants their certification exams to be challenging. They don't publish their targeted "candidate success" goals, but our assumption is that they want a certain percentage of candidates to pass, and that means a certain percentage will fail. Whatever their formula is, it appears that they want those percentages to stay fairly consistent over time (which makes a great deal of sense, and seems very fair). In other words, if there was a universal "difficulty" rating, and let's say the initial SCJP 6 exam had a difficulty rating of "7.6" (I'm totally making this up ), then when they fix or retire questions they still want the resulting exam to have a difficulty rating of "7.6".
With all that said, what happened recently is that Sun determined that several questions and objectives weren't performing well in the field. Some questions were fixed, and some were retired. In order to maintain a consistent difficulty level, they changed some of the objectives, re-evaluated the remaining questions' difficulty levels, and came up with a new number of questions, and a new passing percentage.
But, long story short, Sun went through an extensive process to make sure that the revised exam is just as hard to pass as the older version - not easier, not harder.
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Thanks for the update Bert. I was wondering if Sun made any comments about the SCJP plus exam in general. From what I have read in this post so far, it appears Sun does go through an extensive process to come up with new questions or retire existing ones. So why replace the exams with SCJP plus ? Even if they were planning to, what happened to the deadlines ?
I know that you are not the person we should be asking this question to but, just wanted to know if you have any details. Thanks again for the update
As far as i know, making a SCJP+ cert will require a lot of time as there are so many types a program can be framed and executed. So i think till then SCJP 6 will hold good. Well this info of the sun is really important for people who are going to give the certification.
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I wil be taking SCJP6 exam in an month and my question is regarding the number of questions.
Has the pattern changed now ? I thought we were supposed to answer 72 questions.
I see in the forums that the number of questions has been reduced to 60.
Is that true ?
I think it depends on Examination Center - if Prometric updated the base of questions. I passed SCJP 19/08/2009 and I had 72 questions and 3:30h of time. Before that date Java Ranchers had 60 questions.
Can anyone please supply me with a link where I can read what the "latest" specs (exam objectives, pass mark percentage, number of questions, etc) are?
What I found under sun.com is exactly what was there 3-4 months ago. It seems that they havent update the info there.
I am using Kathy/Bert's SCJP 6 book to prepare for the exam. But this book is 1 year old now (released July/Sept 2008 if I am not mistaking).
Is it still a good source of exam preparation? Any other suggestions on resource material?
I am planning to take the exam as soon as my finances allow me to!...
Guys, Thank you for all the tips. I am thinking to take certification this weekend. Please provide all the links for online mock exams as I cannot download or install any simulators or materials(so sad!!!)...
hi guys...i am preparing for scjp 6. i am reffering k & b.......its been arnd 15 days that i have started preparing and will take 15 more days to complete the book.
till now i have not done any coding...just read the book and solve the self tests.....i think on an average i scored 60% in all the test till chapter 6 in k&b...which is not up to the mark
can anyone tell me what other efforts i should put in to pass the exam with good score.
i am planning to appear for the exam as soon as possible.
i want to know if scjp will also come with jdk 7 early next year.
I've given my crystal ball to my friend, when I'll get it back, I'll tell you the answer. In short, nobody can tell that. SCJP 7 is very much possible unless the supposed programmer plus certification doesn't replace it. Why are you bothered about it anyways??
Thanks for the updates, it really helps those who are on the way for the exam such as me.
I have been reading the book (scjp java6 edition by "Bert Bates"), its really nice, covering most of the important and tricky points.
when i read the chapter and than do the exercise i almost answer 75-95% correct (depending upon chapter, in Assignments chapter i got more confused and from exercise point of view it was the toughest chapter).
Planning to appear for SCJP 6.0 in first week of Feb 2010.
I'm looking forward for above 85% at least, i know it is gonna be difficult.
Anyone willing to drop by some useful advises before i start with the exam, will be appreciated???
Rafi Fareen wrote:Anyone willing to drop by some useful advises before i start with the exam, will be appreciated???
Rafi it would be better if you start a new topic for this.
Mohd Abrar Khan wrote:which version of SCJP would be good, SCJP6/SCJP5,
You should go for SCJP 6, the difference between the two isn't much (details), if you have prepared for SCJP 5, you can easily learn the extra topics of SCJP 6. If you want further opinions, start a new topic for your question by clicking ...
I am going to apply for SCJP6. I am bit confuse between SCJP5/6.
I want to have your views regarding this. Please revert me back soon as I don't have much time.
Also what you think what books should I refer? I have kethy & sierra. Is it sufficient?