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cleared scjdws 5 - how to start from scratch and get it

david boureau

Joined: Oct 01, 2008
Posts: 17

I cleared SCDJWS 5 yesterday with 77%. Number of question is 65, passing score 42%. I started to study last december (and cleared the SCJD in parallel).

Here is my advice when you want to start from scratch.

Begin with the following 6 months free online course : I did only the 3 first months but once I did it, I feel comfortable with XML, XSLT, SAX, StaX, DOM, WSDL, SOAP. It explains exactly how to install software, how to develop, explains the notions with PowerPoint, and you have a mandatory homework to do every week. Very efficient.

Once you did this, read the outstanding Ivan Krisnan's guide, you can easily pick it up from this website. Skip the too much verbose parts, for example you don't have to know all the jaxws annotations neither the wsdl component model (a long part of the book, but there were no question about it). But you can print the book (sorry for the Amazonian Forest:-(, which is a excellent reference book for later. And top of the pop : CODE and COMPILE and TEST all the programms of the book, they are definitely NOT optional for the exam. that's true that they are not so many code snippets in the exam, but Ivan's ones are very useful for that, and you can grab good notions from them.

When somethin is not clear in Ivan's book you can refer to the Mikalai Zaikin's guide (thank you man). Easy to find in this website also.

You think you're ready? Now I will give you the good mock exams I found, well,

* let's start with the not-so-good whizlab, you can buy it but it refer to the old version of the exam and you will have to check every answer (some could be wrong).

* Second, go to Java Black Belt, and go to the web service beta questions (they are free), and check user's comment and check the answers too, precisely because it's beta questions. There was 2 or 3 question very similar in the exam.

* Top of the pop, the WGS-PREX-J230C from sun (google it). These are two mock exams (60 questions each), and some of the questions were the same (well, really really close) as the ones of the exam!!? So study them carefully, it's the very best mock exam of the certification. That's why I score so high because I didn't felt so confident just before the exam.

And most of the time, Sun offers freely a second chance to get the certification if you fail the first attempt, which makes another mock:)

Last words : Unfortunately this forum is not as useful as the scjd's coderanch forum. The explanation is that there is not so much people that try the scdjws, and, anyway, this exam is not about subtelties and trap of web services, it's more a theorical exam, but the wide spectrum could make it a difficult exam... but the very low passing score makes it a "doable" exam. Finally I'm glad because I learned a lot and I will feel more cumfortable in my next job, ( a job a bout web services/ ESB...).



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Mikalai Zaikin
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Joined: Jun 04, 2002
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Congratulations !!!

Great score !

Glad to hear my notes helped (I know they are incomplete, but I'm working on adding new material).

Best regards,

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david boureau

Joined: Oct 01, 2008
Posts: 17
Hey Mikalai,

In the "mock exam" paragraph, I could have added yours, but I didn't use it. Great that it is almost finish!

I can't imagine the time you spend by writing your e-books. Unbelievable.

Meherdad Bomanbehram
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Joined: May 28, 2007
Posts: 142

Hello David boureau,
Congrats and Thanks for such a easy to understand and through explaination your experience will pave a path for others .
I too have found Ivan's and Mikalai's efforts of great help. Thanks Guys .
All the best for the future


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Alex Bluebird

Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 10
Hey David,

Thanks ever so much for outlining your "training regime".

In fact I am thinking about following the "Web Services Programming with Passion" course as well. Do you reckon to start with that i will need a good all-round understanding of J2EE??? In my case altho I am okay with Servlets, JSP's, i am not familiar with other J2ee stuff.....

Thanks in advance

Ivan Krizsan
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Joined: Oct 04, 2006
Posts: 2198
Being familiar with EJBs is also beneficial when attempting the SCDJWS certification.
This since it is possible to implement a web service endpoint as an EJB and, in such a case, the endpoint takes on properties of the EJB, for instance regarding security, thread safety etc.
Best wishes!
Hanuma Deepak Muvvala
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Joined: Nov 20, 2005
Posts: 158
Great Job and Thanks for sharing the information.

Alex Bluebird

Joined: May 19, 2009
Posts: 10
Hi Ivan,

thanks for the tip regarding EJB. I think I'm gonna have a good look at the J2EE with passion course, get the basics right before moving on with web services now.


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jordy mugeni

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Felicitation David!!!
Well done!!!

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