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SCWCD relevance

Kevin Kilbane
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Hi,

This is a genuine question. How relevant is the SCWCD exam to the real world? As a J2EE programmer, I think my weakest area is the whole front-end area - servlets, JSPs etc. It's something I intend to address - I'm just wondering if studying for the SCWCD would be the best way to do this?

Thanks.
Christophe Verré
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How relevant is the SCWCD exam to the real world?

Very relevant. Whatever web framework you'll have a chance to work with, it will help to know what's happening behind.


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Devaka Cooray
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Kevin, SCWCD is just a certification, and the content of SCWCD will be very much helpful.
But for the real world JavaEE web development, you have to learn more and more. Nevertheless you should improve your performance-based skills.


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Charles Lyons
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Kevin Kilbane wrote:How relevant is the SCWCD exam to the real world?

Almost everything to do with Java EE presentation involves the Web container in some form. Even if you use a framework like JSF or Struts, you'll be using servlets and JSPs underneath, and knowing the details of how they work will help you when a problem arises (as they frequently seem to, for me at least!). I'm currently working on a project which takes inputs from multiple distributed systems and presents them through a single Web interface. Those systems involve using remote database connections, REST over HTTPS, SSH and SOAP. We could have done this in (for example) PHP, but we wanted a language which could scale to a vast number of future technologies. Java provides that platform. The Web container provides a simple yet powerful way to handle all the details of HTTPS as well as promote code re-use (e.g. through JSP tags and EL), and enables container-wide authentication and authorisation, for example.

Kevin Kilbane wrote:I'm just wondering if studying for the SCWCD would be the best way to do this?

I see no reason why not. I find I learn things quite adequately by studying a well-defined syllabus - and having that end goal is good too. Even if you never took the exam to get the certification, you'll still have learnt all the knowledge along the way, and that's what really matters.

I don't know if this was just good timing or a question about my book in particular, but in case it's the latter, you can find more information (table of contents, sample chapter, availability) linked from my post in the sticky thread.


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Charles Lyons
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You may also want to read what I've written in the similar Is the certification still relevant? thread... I don't think I was that helpful, but my musings are there nonetheless. At least, I think I supported studying for the SCWCD.
César Guzmán
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Joined: Mar 08, 2009
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[quote=Kevin Kilbane]Hi,

This is a genuine question. How relevant is the SCWCD exam to the real world? As a J2EE programmer, I think my weakest area is the whole front-end area - servlets, JSPs etc. It's something I intend to address - I'm just wondering if studying for the SCWCD would be the best way to do this?

Thanks.[/quote]

Of course, many java web frameworks(i think all), have a foundation on servlets and jsp technologies, if you learn that, it's easier to understand other frameworks, in fact, you can make your own framework with this knowledge. I think SCWCD it's good for a java web developer.
jimmy cheng
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Charles Lyons wrote:
Kevin Kilbane wrote:How relevant is the SCWCD exam to the real world?

Almost everything to do with Java EE presentation involves the Web container in some form. Even if you use a framework like JSF or Struts, you'll be using servlets and JSPs underneath, and knowing the details of how they work will help you when a problem arises (as they frequently seem to, for me at least!). I'm currently working on a project which takes inputs from multiple distributed systems and presents them through a single Web interface. Those systems involve using remote database connections, REST over HTTPS, SSH and SOAP. We could have done this in (for example) PHP, but we wanted a language which could scale to a vast number of future technologies. Java provides that platform. The Web container provides a simple yet powerful way to handle all the details of HTTPS as well as promote code re-use (e.g. through JSP tags and EL), and enables container-wide authentication and authorisation, for example.

Kevin Kilbane wrote:I'm just wondering if studying for the SCWCD would be the best way to do this?

I see no reason why not. I find I learn things quite adequately by studying a well-defined syllabus - and having that end goal is good too. Even if you never took the exam to get the certification, you'll still have learnt all the knowledge along the way, and that's what really matters.

I don't know if this was just good timing or a question about my book in particular, but in case it's the latter, you can find more information (table of contents, sample chapter, availability) linked from my post in the sticky thread.


Hi, Charles, has your book been published in a Chinese edition?
Charles Lyons
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jimmy cheng wrote:Hi, Charles, has your book been published in a Chinese edition?

No, I'm afraid not. The Indian/Asian edition is also in English.
 
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