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Future of Hummer in the US army

Hussein Baghdadi
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Hey,
Does Hummer is going to be the US military vehicle after being sold to a chinese company?
Ulf Dittmer
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The HMMWV -the military version of the Hummer- is produced by AM General, not by GM. So it is not affected by the sale of GM's Hummer division, should it go through (Wikipedia states that the sale will be blocked by Chinese authorities).

Also note that only the now discontinued Hummer H1 model was based on the HMMWV, not the current H2 and H3 models.
Pat Farrell
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Also, the HMMWV has fallen out of favor within the "brass" of the US military. It was designed for use behind the lines. That is why they had canvas doors, thin metal, etc.

Perfect when the US and Russia are fighting tank battles on the plains of Poland and Germany.

In modern wars, there are no lines, and there are no tank battles.

When they "up armor" the HMMWV, its ruined. The motor is too small, the frame too weak, brakes too small, etc. If you want an armored personnel carrier, start with one. Like a Bradley.
Pawel Nowacki
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Perfect when the US and Russia are fighting tank battles on the plains of Poland and Germany.


This is a joke, right?
Pat Farrell
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No, the Hummer was designed as a behind the front carrier, unarmored, for use in a traditional war. Generals always are fighting the last war. And the Hummer and the M1A1 tanks were designed for fighting the Russians in a hot war. The obvious place to have that war is from Germany through Poland and on to Eurpoean Russia.

You sure are not going to have that type of war in the Balkins. Or South East Asia.

You might have it one in the US midwest if Canada attacked the US.

Since not a lot of folks think wars like these are likely in the future, the Hummer has no future.
Paul Clapham
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Pat Farrell wrote:You might have it one in the US midwest if Canada attacked the US.


Probably the least likely of the lot. I mean, yeah, our politicians are as out of touch with reality as any other politicians, but not that far out of touch.
John Smith
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Pat Farrell wrote:You might have it one in the US midwest if Canada attacked the US.


I'd love to see that war, it would be quite a spectacle. Canada's total army personnel is about 65,000. I predict the war would last two and a half days.
Paul Clapham
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John Smith wrote:
Pat Farrell wrote:You might have it one in the US midwest if Canada attacked the US.


I'd love to see that war, it would be quite a spectacle. Canada's total army personnel is about 65,000. I predict the war would last two and a half days.


Yeah, it would probably take the tanks that long to get down to Minot.
 
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