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Muse Ran
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your views/thoughts?


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Ulf Dittmer
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They exist. What do you think?


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Joe Ess
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Our thoughts have been collected in this previous thread on Somali Pirates


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Henry Wong
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I remember seeing a cool report that followed one of the american naval cruisers. In one scene, the captain gets a report of a ship in trouble. He request support from whoever can get there the fastest. In this case, it was a couple of armed copters from a british ship. But the british ship wasn't the closest ship, just the one who can get support there the fastest.

So, he requests support from both the nearest ship, and the british ship. Both ship replied immediate that they were heading over. The british ship with there copters to fend off the pirates, til the other naval ship arrives. The other naval ship was an iranian warship.

I could not believe it. An american warship requests support from an iranian warship, without even thinking twice about it. And the iranian warship just does it, as if they were all part of the same navy. Now... that's cool. Having a common foe does have benefits.

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Jesper de Jong
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Yarrr!! You're a month late, matey!

happy "talk like a pirate day"

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Pat Farrell
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Henry Wong wrote:IAn american warship requests support from an iranian warship, without even thinking twice about it. And the iranian warship just does it, as if they were all part of the same navy. Now... that's cool. Having a common foe does have benefits.

Most navies have a tradition of being helpful as long as they are not at war with the other ship.

The US is not at war with Iran, and the countries have a ton in common, just a few at the top cause the problems. Persian culture goes back many centuries.

The Somali pirates are the enemy of all civilized peoples.
pooja jain
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pirates of caribian

i liked all the parts.


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Vikas Kapoor
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Somali pirates hijack ship with 24 Indians on board. Ref.
Arvind Mahendra
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Muse Ran wrote:your views/thoughts?


As long as they share some of their shet by uploading it to rapidshare I'm not against it. The shet should be useful to me otherwise I think they should be shot.


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Muse Ran
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is Somalians are involved in hi-jack (pirates) or actually whoz doing this.
Nicolas Zozol
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The Somali pirates are the enemy of all civilized peoples.


I'm french, and french fishermen suffers a lot of Piracy. But just one question : why French fishermen would go with huge boats fishing there ? Why Somalies fishermen would risk their live instead of fishing ? Same question : why bolivian would trade coca instead of fruits ? By pleasure ?

I guess you're missing informations, or you have a quite specious definition of "civilized"


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Frank Silbermann
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Nicolas Zozol wrote:
I'm french, and french fishermen suffers a lot of Piracy. But just one question : why French fishermen would go with huge boats fishing there ?


To take advantage of the lack of a functioning government by robbing the Somalis of the fish that is rightfully theirs.

Nicolas Zozol wrote: Why Somalies fishermen would risk their live instead of fishing?
Originally, it was because foreigners depleted their own country's fishing grounds. However, now they do it because the risk to their lives while pirating proved to be rather small, and they realized they could become quite rich by collecting ransom. The only solution is the radically increase the risk to their lives. The only fair solution is for the killers of pirates to also defend Somali fishing waters against encroachment by foreigners.

Nicolas Zozol wrote: Same question : why bolivian would trade coca instead of fruits ? By pleasure ?
Producers can collect higher prices from addicts than from consumers of fruit.
Nicolas Zozol
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Frank Silbermann wrote:
Nicolas Zozol wrote:
I'm french, and french fishermen suffers a lot of Piracy. But just one question : why French fishermen would go with huge boats fishing there ?


To take advantage of the lack of a functioning government by robbing the Somalis of the fish that is rightfully theirs.



Well, more precisely, these fishes are in international waters. Nonetheless fishes are reproducing themselves along the coast and are then food for coastal people. Intense fishing => less reproduction => less food for somalies and other coastal countries.
Frank Silbermann
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Nicolas Zozol wrote:
Frank Silbermann wrote:
Nicolas Zozol wrote:
I'm french, and french fishermen suffers a lot of Piracy. But just one question : why French fishermen would go with huge boats fishing there ?


To take advantage of the lack of a functioning government by robbing the Somalis of the fish that is rightfully theirs.



Well, more precisely, these fishes are in international waters. Nonetheless fishes are reproducing themselves along the coast and are then food for coastal people. Intense fishing => less reproduction => less food for somalies and other coastal countries.
I did, nonetheless, read that Somali fishermen first went into piracy when foreign fishermen did enter unpatroled Somali waters and left the Somalis with few remaining fish to catch. I guess they now go after ships (fishermen or otherwise) in international waters, using the bigger boats they've captured (or bought with ransom money) because they can.

In fact, they now capture victims so far from the Somali coast that it is pointless to ask, "Why were French fishermen there?"
Nicolas Zozol
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Frank Silbermann wrote:
In fact, they now capture victims so far from the Somali coast that it is pointless to ask, "Why were French fishermen there?"

I think you use "they" instead of "some" a little fast
 
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