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Joe Harry
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Guys,

Is there one available that I can install on my Ubuntu partition?


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Joe Harry
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But there seems to be no support for creating web apps using the community edition. What would that really be of use?
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Its editor is very good and if you code in another language like Groovy, its Groovy support is one of the best available. And if you like it, well, you can always purchase the commercial edition


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Joe Harry
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Ok fine, but is there a version for Linux that I can download.
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Jothi Shankar Kumar wrote:But there seems to be no support for creating web apps using the community edition. What would that really be of use?


Personally, i stay away from IDEs which add those numerous plugins for all sorts of stuff like web development. I use IDE more like an advanced editor (for example, the autocompletes, step-into, debug) and nothing more than that. I have using Eclipse (without any plugins) so far and had stayed away from IntelliJ. But since the community editiion was released, the only reason i downloaded and started using it was because it did *not* have all those plugins included. So far, the experience has been good although there are a few issues in the current edition (which is expected of a Beta).


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Jothi Shankar Kumar wrote:But there seems to be no support for creating web apps using the community edition. What would that really be of use?

Not following. You can use it to edit and compile your code with all the nice features it has, and with its Ant integration it can do all kinds of stuff (like deploying to a servlet container). Are you saying that's of no use?

is there a version for Linux that I can download.

The Linux download is on the same page as the other downloads; did you find those?
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Jothi Shankar Kumar wrote:Ok fine, but is there a version for Linux that I can download.


Yes, they distribute the downloads as .tar.gz and .zip files. So that should be enough for any OS you use. Here's where you can get it.
Joe Harry
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:
Not following. You can use it to edit and compile your code with all the nice features it has, and with its Ant integration it can do all kinds of stuff (like deploying to a servlet container). Are you saying that's of no use?


Agree, but I was expecting something like the way I use Tomcat in eclipse. Add a server configuration to my project and publish and restart the changes to my server which I found to be quite quick than starting tomcat from the console through the startup scripts. I completely agree it is too much to expect from the community edition, but what I would suggest is IntelliJ to have some kind of micro payment concept similiar to the myeclipse plugin for a lesser amount. I willdefinitely go for it than paying a hefty fee for the full version.

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Hi,

I've been using the community edition (on Linux, too) now since it was first availabe for free downloading. I think it's a very good IDE regarding advanced features like refactoring, it has good performance and other nice things. Unfortunately there are of course features missing in this free edition. One way to make it easier to use a servlet container or something like this, is to create projects based on Maven. Maven support is really good and Maven can add at least some of the convenient features the community IDE is missing ;-)

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Joe Harry
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Yes, I agree. I see repeatedly people saying that IntelliJ has some good refactoring and code quality improvement stuff which other IDE's miss. I will just explore on those lines.
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In my opinion IntelliJ definitely has some built-in features like the said quality assurance tools for example which I'd like to see so tightely integrated into other IDEs as well. On the other hand at least for this beta version there seem to be the same buggy plugins which make the IDE appear as unstable as NetBeans or Eclipse if you use the wrong plugins. The pure feature list reads very similar to that of NetBeans but the overall "feeling" of the IDE is a little bit more professional in contrast to NetBeans or Eclipse - at least for me. But I think I need some more real world experience to be able to judge it right.

Does anyone know about future plans of this free community version? Will future versions be available for free, too? Will the above mentioned additional features be available in the community version any time soon? Anyway, I think IntelliJ would be more widely used if it would be cheaper for private usage. I wouldn't mind paying for a good IDE if it would be that much better than the free alternatives. But from my first experiences I'd say it's quite nice but it's not worth the price (once again at least for me) as long as I can get ALMOST the same for free with NetBeans or Eclipse. But I'd surely be glad to hear why you think IntelliJ is worth the price!

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I use the full version of IntelliJ, but I do not use the built-in Tomcat feature. I run a separate Tomcat instance.


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Marco Ehrentreich
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Hi Bear,

out of curiosity, what is your opinion regarding the costs for IntelliJ? Is it worth it for private-only usage? At work it's a different thing of course... In fact I've often thought about buying the personal edition but I never could find enough convincing arguments to pay ~ 200 EUR.

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Having not paid for it out of my own pocket, I don't feel qualified to comment. But I would cry for it if it went away.
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OK, that statement seems to be common for all IntelliJ users Perhaps I should give the trial version a try one more time to play around with all features...

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Joe Harry
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I will also perhaps try the full version for 30 days.
Joe Harry
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Wow! Maven is really cool in IntelliJ!
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Absolutely!

And in my opinion the really good thing with Maven is that you are not bound to a specific IDE! A Maven project will run out of the box in any modern IDE, from the command line or with CI servers etc. This makes it very easy to give IntelliJ a try without having to change a single line in any build script or something like this. Just close the project in your favorite IDE and re-open it in IntelliJ And Maven support is really good here. It's fast, simple and still comfortable enough. Comparable to NetBeans Maven support and better than Eclipse.

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Joe Harry
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That"s true!
Joe Harry
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By the way, do we have a database explorer kind of a thing that we have in eclipse?
Joe Harry
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Especially, have you used the DBHelper plugin? Would that work for the community version? And is that free?
 
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