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Grails: A Quick Start Guide Question

Brett Lewinski
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Joined: Feb 22, 2008
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Hello -

I have been hearing a lot about DSL's lately; I recently attended a conference and the DSL's seemed be the hot topic. There were a few sessions on groovy and grails; I was only able to attend 1 session on grails. In that one session I did like what I had seen from grails. Since I am new to the language do you feel it is a good starting point; should I start with grails or would I be better off starting somewhere else and working my way up to grails? I am a pretty experienced Java developer and I am looking for something new. Another topic that was discussed at the symposium was using languages such as groovy and grails to write the test for Java applications; what are your thoughts on this and do you think it would be a good use for grails?

Thanks!



Dave Klein
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Hi Brett,

If you are an experienced developer then Grails is not something you need to "work up to". You should be able to pick it up pretty easily. You will need to pick up a few of the basic concepts of the Groovy language which is why I give a Groovy language intro in my book. You will want to learn more about Groovy as you get going with Grails, but you do not need much to get started. Actually you will probably want to learn more about Groovy anyway, just because it's so fun to work with, but that's just my opinion.

Groovy can be very helpful in testing existing Java code. That is a very common way for people to introduce Groovy to an organization. You can learn more about using Groovy to write unit tests here: http://groovy.codehaus.org/Unit+Testing

Have fun,
Dave
Brett Lewinski
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Thanks Dave I appreciate you answers.

I do have one follow up question. In your opinion do you see groovy or grails as just a fad or something that is here to stay? With my limited knowledge of the languages I think it has really good potential but I of course don't know as much as you do and I was really impressed by the the session I attended at NFJS given by Robert Fischer.

Thanks!

Brett
Gregg Bolinger
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Brett Lewinski wrote:Thanks Dave I appreciate you answers.

I do have one follow up question. In your opinion do you see groovy or grails as just a fad or something that is here to stay? With my limited knowledge of the languages I think it has really good potential but I of course don't know as much as you do and I was really impressed by the the session I attended at NFJS given by Robert Fischer.

Thanks!

Brett


In the IT world, isn't everything just a fad? Things change so quickly, nothing last forever. Some things linger around longer than others. But there's always something better on the horizon. I love working with Grails. It has a lot of backing (SpringSource, community, etc). I can't wait to see what replaces it. Because whatever it is, it will have to be totally awesomezzzzz. ;)


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Dave Klein
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I'm obviously biased in this area so it's a good thing Gregg is here to provide some balance and wisdom.

As Gregg said, technologies do come and go and some last longer than others. Usually they follow some sort of curve. I think that Groovy and Grails are still in the upward swing of that curve. If you look at the way the tool vendors are competing with each other to provide support and if you look at the job trends on indeed.com, you get the impression that the interest in and adoption of these technologies are still growing.

There will be other new languages and frameworks and that will continue to make our industry exciting, but if you're wondering if Grails will be around long enough to make it worth learning, career-wise, I think the answer is a resounding yes!

Dave
Brett Lewinski
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Thanks for the info guys; I appreciate it!
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Gregg Bolinger wrote: I can't wait to see what replaces it. Because whatever it is, it will have to be totally awesomezzzzz. ;)




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