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SCEA part 3 results

Jonathan Cipot
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I completed part 3 about five weeks ago, but it doesn't show the result yet in https://www.certmanager.net/sun_assignment.

How long did it take for your results to be displayed? Am I looking at the right place?
Prabu S Arumugam
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I completed mine three weeks ago! Some get the result in two weeks... some in three, four weeks... Its been five weeks for you..
I guess the reviewers are cooking Turkey this week for Thanksgiving


Insurance Systems- Architect.
SCBCD 5, SCWCD 1.4, MCP VB 6.0
Prabu S Arumugam
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Did you mail Sun support? Probably you passed already.. but there is a technical glitch that is preventing it from being displayed on Sun Cert watcher?
Nithi Rajan
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Prabu S Arumugam wrote:I completed mine three weeks ago! Some get the result in two weeks... some in three, four weeks... Its been five weeks for you..


Prabhu,

Did you get your result?

Regards!
Prabu S Arumugam
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Not yet
Three weeks and counting.. it has been a long wait..
I'll keep my fingers crossed..
Prabu S Arumugam
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Two more days to hit the four week SLA from Sun.
I have a draft mail ready.. will fire it to who2contact this Friday..
EAGERLY AWAITING THE RESULTS... NAIL BITING FINISH ???!!!

I hate this wait !!!
prathap venkata naga yelugula
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Due to evaluation Order in SUN might be causes various timelines for results.

Cheers!
Prathap.
Prabu S Arumugam
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Pratap,

What evaluation order?
Prabu S Arumugam
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FAQ page in Sun Cert Manager reads..
Your exam results will show up in the Certification database within 4 weeks after taking the essay at Prometric


I am in the 5th week after taking Part 3 and Part2.
But Reps from Sun and Prometric say it is normal that candidates wait upto 4 to "6" weeks..

Gosh.. this wait is ..
Raymond Lilleodegard
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Hi all fellow grade waiters!

I got my result today after waiting 6 weeks.
My grade is P but the score is set to 0 in the certmanager. As I understand it is a known problem for many. Looks like the certification database is not updated yet as well. But I guess it will get updated soon.
Until then I assume it means I passed ... ?


Kind regards Raymond
SJCP - SCWCD - SCEA 5
Prabu S Arumugam
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Congrats!..
You may want to confirm by sending a mail to who2contact and probably a request to initiate processing your certification package by confirming your name and address.
I noticed that some of us have received the result in 3 weeks.. I was hoping I'll get the results within the 4th week.

I am in my 5th week and I have my fingers crossed.
Certmanager is my home page now as I check for the result almost daily!..

Congrats Raymond !...
Raymond Lilleodegard
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Thank you very much! I know that feeling, I have "lived" in the certmanager the last 6 weeks

Wish you all luck and hope you will get the answer very soon.
prathap venkata naga yelugula
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Hi Prabu,
Sorry for Late reply...I am out of Station that why...


Evaluation Order means....may be some order for clearing Queue of assignments...may be Examiners avail or not avail...etc...Other than that thing nothing.

Cheers!
Prathap.
SC[JP,WCD,BCD,EA-1]
Nithi Rajan
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Raymond Lilleodegard wrote:Hi all fellow grade waiters!

I got my result today after waiting 6 weeks.
My grade is P but the score is set to 0 in the certmanager. As I understand it is a known problem for many. Looks like the certification database is not updated yet as well. But I guess it will get updated soon.
Until then I assume it means I passed ... ?



I too got my results today after waiting for 38 days. My Grade is P with 0 score in certmanager.
I'll wait for the certification database to be updated and I assume I passed.

Any idea how long will it take for cert manager to publish the marks?
and how long will it take for SUN to mail us the Certificate?

Regards!
Prabu S Arumugam
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I too got my results today after waiting for 38 days. My Grade is P with 0 score in certmanager.


Congrats !..
Did you get your results in an email..?

Its been 36 days for me..
I hope I pass.. or else I'll have to cancel my travel plans for Christmas and New year day long weekends...
Nithi Rajan
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Prabu S Arumugam wrote:

Congrats !..
Did you get your results in an email..?



No, I did'nt get the results in email. Just keep cheking cert manager.
Prabu S Arumugam
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ok. The cert manager site has been my home page for the last two months.
I will keep checking the Test history section.
Thank You !..
Prasanna Wamanacharya
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The cert manager site has been my home page for the last two months.
I will keep checking the Test history section.


The CertManager Scraper tool might help ease the nerves a bit - http://sourceforge.net/projects/certmngrscraper/
(A simple tool for checking test results on Sun Microsystems' CertManager Data Access Service)
J J Wright
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The CertManager Scraper tool might help ease the nerves a bit


Please be aware that I'm still adding bits and pieces to this project when I get the time.

If you are using it I'd highly recommend subscribing to the project feed as you'll get notifications of any changes to the source code. For example, I recently fixed a significant bug and added email notification functionality.

Regards,

Jonathan


SCJP, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA 5
Prasanna Wamanacharya
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Jonathan, Thanks for writing and sharing a useful tool!

Few suggestions -
* Please mention the list of libraries needed to run it. I had to do the following hacks to get the tool working:
1. Had to delete EmailNotificationListener.java and comment its calling code because I did not have the jar file for the javax.mail.* imports.
2. Had to comment all GenericValidator related code for the same reason
(I know this was plain laziness on my part )

* Please try to build support for internet proxies. I can't run the tool at work because we don't have direct internet access there, and have to go through a proxy server. I tried to incorporate proxy support into your code, but have hit a dead-end since the HttpsURLConnection class has been used, and I am not sure if it has proxy support. I've also referred this link http://www.coderanch.com/t/206897/Sockets-Internet-Protocols/java/HttpsURLConnection-Proxy-auth, but the https://cis.med.ucalgary.ca/http/forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=188930&tstart=45 link is giving a 404.
J J Wright
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Prasanna,

Thanks for the feedback - it's always appreciated.

Although I've now checked in the changes you asked for (the latest version includes optional proxy.host and proxy.port configuration properties). I haven't had the time to set up a proxy on my machine for testing purposes.

Please give it a try and let me know how it goes.

Regards,

Jonathan
Prabu S Arumugam
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Day 38: I think I got my result in Cert Manager
Part 3 (310-062) - Grade "P" Score "0"
Did I pass?
J J Wright
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Please try to build support for internet proxies


OK, I set up squid on my local fedora machine and added the appropriate proxy.host and port.port config properties.

Everything appears to be working fine.

P.S.

Feel free to leave comments and suggestions on one of the project forums if you don't want to clutter this thread.

Day 38: I think I got my result in Cert Manager


Congrats Prabu!
Chetan Sahasrabudhe
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Congrats !!!

Can anyone guide me in deciding if I should wait for new edition or should start work with first edition copy of Mark Cade book ?

I want to start the work at earlist but do not want to put efforts in something that will change by Feb 10.

Regards
Chetan


Thanks & Regards<br />Chetan
Prasanna Wamanacharya
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Can anyone guide me in deciding if I should wait for new edition or should start work with first edition copy of Mark Cade book ?


Have you taken a look at the rough cuts of his latest edition? If not, please search this forum for its link.

The point is, you can safely refer to the chapters from the earlier edition which are common for both versions of the exam, as they don't seem to have changed much in the new edition (this is based on my review of the rough cuts).
Prasanna Wamanacharya
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Feel free to leave comments and suggestions on one of the project forums if you don't want to clutter this thread.


Sorry to say that when I tried to register at https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/, the page simply did not load; so, have to comment here.

I tried the latest version at my workplace, but without success. Here is the stack trace I got -



Lines 16-18 might be useful for debugging.
J J Wright
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When I was initially developing the app I tried using HttpClient 4.0.x but couldn't get it working. For that reason I resorted to using HttpsURLConnnection. However,
as you're probably aware from the list of required JARs in Readme.txt, I've now resorted to using HttpClient 3.1 to enable support for proxies.

I think the best way to proceed with your problem is to renew efforts at getting HttpClient 4.0.x working. That'll require a bit of detective work and no doubt some posts to the HttpClient forum, so it may be while before things are working for you. Of course, the other big problem is replicating your problem in my environment as I only run Linux and don't, therefore, have a network using NTLM.

Have you shown the stack trace to your Network Admin / IT people at work? Their input would no doubt be helpful in better understanding the problem.

Regards,

Jonathan
Nithi Rajan
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Guys, My score is still 0, 11 days after the result has been published. Can anyone tell me how long will it take for SUN to update the score in suncermanager?

Regards!
J J Wright
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Do Sun actually post a score for part 2? The marking section of my instructions contains the following:

Below are the sections of the assignment and points available per section. Minimum score to pass the exam is 114. We will only post a pass or fail.

Nithi Rajan
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J J Wright wrote:Do Sun actually post a score for part 2? The marking section of my instructions contains the following:

Below are the sections of the assignment and points available per section. Minimum score to pass the exam is 114. We will only post a pass or fail.




The Marking Section has the following

"The marking for this assignment is described below. You will receive a single score for parts 2 and 3 of the exam."

and in the next paragraph, the following is also present

"Minimum score to pass the exam is 114. We will only post a pass or fail"


So, which is correct? The Marking Section is as confusing as the assignment itself.
J J Wright
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OK, I see what you're getting at.

I would take the statement "You will receive a single score for parts 2 and 3 of the exam" as meaning "parts II and III are marked together". The product of that single marking process is your final score, The minimum combined score is 114.

Unfortunately, it looks like Sun don't then tell you what your actual mark is. They simply tell you whether you passed or failed. In my opinion this is a real let down. After all, the whole process should be about becoming a better architect. Not simply whether you passed of failed. The absence of full and proper feedback, i.e. your actual marks broken down by section, means many of the real benefits of this certification are lost.

If they can provide marks, broken down by section, to SCJD, why not for SCEA?
Nithi Rajan
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J J Wright wrote:OK, I see what you're getting at.

I would take the statement "You will receive a single score for parts 2 and 3 of the exam" as meaning "parts II and III are marked together". The product of that single marking process is your final score, The minimum combined score is 114.

Unfortunately, it looks like Sun don't then tell you what your actual mark is. They simply tell you whether you passed or failed. In my opinion this is a real let down. After all, the whole process should be about becoming a better architect. Not simply whether you passed of failed. The absence of full and proper feedback, i.e. your actual marks broken down by section, means many of the real benefits of this certification are lost.

If they can provide marks, broken down by section, to SCJD, why not for SCEA?


Thanks for clarification.

I agree with you that Sun should actually give us the points scored, broken down by section. Now, I'm not sure in which section I'm strong and in which I need to improve.
J J Wright
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Now, I'm not sure in which section I'm strong and in which I need to improve.


Exactly
John Volk
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Nithi Rajan wrote:Guys, My score is still 0, 11 days after the result has been published

Regards!


Lucky you!
For me 7 weeks passed since Part 3 completed but I still don't have any result published nor here
https://www.certmanager.net/sun_assignment
neither here
https://www.certmanager.net/sun

I send a letter to who2contact@sun.com and SunCert@Prometric.com.
probably I should have sent it to Santa as well, but I think it's too later for this year (maybe next?).

Any ideas who else I can contact to ?
J J Wright
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For me 7 weeks passed since Part 3 completed but I still don't have any result published nor here


I wonder what's happened in the last 18 months? Back in June of 2008 - it was only taking 2 weeks (see page 12), or so we were led to believe.

Any ideas who else I can contact to ?


You'll probably get more joy from Santa, but have you tried contacting Sun Educational Services for your country/region? At least that way you get to speak to a real human being as opposed to just firing emails into the ether.
John Volk
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J J Wright wrote:
Any ideas who else I can contact to ?


You'll probably get more joy from Santa, but have you tried contacting Sun Educational Services for your country/region? At least that way you get to speak to a real human being as opposed to just firing emails into the ether.


OK, I just talked to live person and she advised me to send email to suncert@prometric.com that I did few days ago.
SUN is on vacations now (except her) and I will be answered next 2010 year probably.
J J Wright
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OK, I just talked to live person and she advised me to send email to suncert@prometric.com that I did few days ago.
SUN is on vacations now (except her) and I will be answered next 2010 year probably.


Well, I'm sorry to say that doesn't surprise me. The administration of these certifications just seems to get worse and worse. How it can be acceptable to make people wait two months for results is beyond me.
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J J Wright wrote:
Now, I'm not sure in which section I'm strong and in which I need to improve.


Exactly


Sun not providing the actual marks is a dampener...
Because, at least half of the people attempting the exam propably know that they can pass for sure...the actual marks that one scores can give an idea of where we stand vis-a-vis other examinees/architects...


Ranga.
SCJP 1.4, OCMJEA/SCEA 5.0.
Nithi Rajan
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Can anyone tell me how long does it take for SUN/Prometric to send the Final Certificate since they posted the Results?
I need the Final Certificate to do some claims.

Regards!
J J Wright
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I finally received my results after 8 weeks and a lot of hassle.

The correspondence I've received from Sun over the pass few days suggests there are still serious problems with Prometric, If you've been waiting for a long time I'd strongly advise you to contact Sun and keep on at them till something happens.

Apparently, Prometric was not registering me as having completed all three parts (how this happens when you have a unique candidate ID I'll never know, but it seems to be a recurring problem for some candidates). In fact, I had to resend my assignment directly to Sun (make sure you keep a secure backup of your assignment in case this happens to you).

Troubles aside, at least I can relax now I've passed.

Thanks again to all the people who contributed to the discussions on this forum over the pass few months.

Regards,

Jonathan
 
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