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Hello All!
I was wondering what is the best book to learn Struts, and mostly dealing with Web design, and JSP!?
I am not new to java, I have been doing a good bit of Desktop Java development and some servlet development, but I am new to STRUTS. So any help on this would be great!
Jason Cox
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The Struts Kick-Start book isn't too bad. I might have the title wrong.
I was very disappointed with the Jakarata Struts book from O'Reilly. It basically read like a repeat of the documentation on the Jakarta site.
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Originally posted by Brandon George:
Hello All!
I was wondering what is the best book to learn Struts, and mostly dealing with Web design, and JSP!?
I am not new to java, I have been doing a good bit of Desktop Java development and some servlet development, but I am new to STRUTS. So any help on this would be great!

My book covers a bit about Struts (along with 5 other frameworks), but covers a great deal about web design and best practices. It is a good introduction to Struts and the rationale behind the implementation of Struts.


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Surasak Leenapongpanit
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Faisal Khan
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Originally posted by Brandon George:
Hello All!
I was wondering what is the best book to learn Struts, and mostly dealing with Web design, and JSP!?
I am not new to java, I have been doing a good bit of Desktop Java development and some servlet development, but I am new to STRUTS. So any help on this would be great!


IMO you will not find a book that deals comprehensivley with all of the topics you are looking for. As Neal said you can use his books for a grounding in best practices for web application development. For learning JSP you will need something like core Servlets and Java Server Pages by Marty Hall (2nd ed). For Struts, I recommend Struts in Action.
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vasu maj
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I read manning's study kit while preparing for SCWCD which I liked very much. I still use it as a reference for JSP (especially tag libraries and custom tags). Core servlets part I and II are anytime good books for servlets and JSP. There is a book titled mastering Tomcat development where I studied about struts for the first time and liked the coverage very much. It was brief and to the point. It covers development using Tomcat which may not be suitable for everybody but worked for me.

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Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Neal Ford:

My book covers a bit about Struts (along with 5 other frameworks), but covers a great deal about web design and best practices. It is a good introduction to Struts and the rationale behind the implementation of Struts.

So does it mean that those who are totally new to Struts can use your book as an introduction to Struts? Even though I'm not new to Struts, I might have chance to refer about your book to the Struts newbies...
Is it also mean that your book is introduction to several frameworks mentioned on the cover of the book? Poeple who wants to try those frameworks specified on the cover, the book is for them... Isn't it?
Thanks a lot for being here answering a lot of questions, even though some are not directly related to your book..


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Neal Ford
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So does it mean that those who are totally new to Struts can use your book as an introduction to Struts? Even though I'm not new to Struts, I might have chance to refer about your book to the Struts newbies...

Yes, my book is an introduction Struts, along with the reasons that Struts (and the other frameworks) are useful to busy developers.
Is it also mean that your book is introduction to several frameworks mentioned on the cover of the book? Poeple who wants to try those frameworks specified on the cover, the book is for them... Isn't it?

Yes, I compare and contrast the frameworks, but I don't assume that the reader knows anthing about them up front. It's a good way to learn the flavor of all these competing frameworks. I also supply evaluation criteria to assist the reader in choosing the framework most suitable for them.
Thanks a lot for being here answering a lot of questions, even though some are not directly related to your book..

You are quite welcome. I've enjoyed the week here.
Nicholas Cheung
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Personally, I think Structs in Action is a good book, if you are looking for a single book that focus on Structs!
However, I think Mr Neal's book is another type of book, which you are looking for a detailed description for various technologies that supports the Web Application development framework, NOT just Structs.
In addition, when we take about Web Application, dont forget the Web Services.
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Dave Knipp
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I would tend to agree with everyone else that Struts in Action is a very good struts book. I knew a brief amount about struts before i started reading it and now i feel like i could implement it in any web app successfully. It has alot of good detail about how to use the components and how things are handled in the background (which is important when dealing with frameworks that do alot of things for you).
I'd recommend it,
Dave


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Siripa Siangklom
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I have a copy of Struts in Action book that give me a good overall understanding of the struts framework.
 
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