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vijay jamadade
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Hi guys,

I have joined a tier-1 company 3 days ago. Problem is I was interviewed for web technology. I have expertise in struts,spring,ajax with around 3 yrs of experience. Now here they are forcing me to work in swing which i am not interested.

I shared same with them. Anyway I dont want to wrok in swing. What should I do? I have discussed regarding this with RM and PM still no use.

What should be my decision? Please give me your suggestions.


Regards, Vijay Jamadade.
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Deepak Bala
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Will you work with swing all along ? Swing is not all that bad. It will add to your flavor. You can always make a shift to another technology / preference later if you are unable to move the pawns now.


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vijay jamadade
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I am not interested in that.

I am negotiating for my technology that I have worked.

should i move to next opportunity?

What are other views of this?
Sagar Rohankar
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Try to convince them about how bad you're with GUI programming, tell them you don't know a very basic of Swing and other GUI patter and architecture things. If they still want you in the team, then give up and start working on Swing taking your own time.

After all its your life, you decide.


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vijay jamadade
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Sagar, Believe me, I have really tried hard to convince them. I will compromise with other things but when it comes to technology I can't.

Please suggest me, I have just joined. At least they are supposed to see my profile before allocation or told me earlier about that. Thats what i think.

Ulf Dittmer
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I will compromise with other things but when it comes to technology I can't.

I'd advise to rethink this attitude. You'll effectively be paid to learn new things - most tech companies expect you to pick up new technologies on your own, so this is not a bad deal. Also, you'll have to learn lots of new technologies and frameworks over the course of your career anyway because the field moves so fast; trying to keep working on what you have worked before is a recipe for making yourself obsolete and undesirable for employers.


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Sagar Rohankar
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Best said, Ulf. When I was graduated from college and started worshiping the Java and Open Source, I was just being the biggest hater of .NET or MS things, but when I understood that at least 50% of user have Windows as an operating system, I have to change my attitude and start loving what MS is offering and after all .NET is NOT so bad to learn and it gives a total new experience of different technology which assure you a good income and major client pool

So its NOT bad to learn Swing, but as I said earlier, you decide what you want.
Maneesh Godbole
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I am with Ulf here.
Everyone has his "pet" technologies. Mine is Swing by the way

However, one cannot afford to stick to one technology all the while. It pays to be well versed with other things. I can see some plus points in your situation.
1) You already have landed a paying job
2) You are interested in technology X, indicating you know X
3) Your manager is aware of this situation. In spite of that he expects you to work on Y. I suppose he is willing to give you some time to pick up Y
4) Effectively your new employer is paying for your time and education while also paying you to come to office to do all this.

I would suggest go with it. If nothing else, you will have learnt something new at someone else's expense. For all you know, you might end up writing a killer app blending X and Y which will surely increase your chances in the next appraisal round.
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vijay jamadade
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Maneesh you are right. but i fear that my web technology experience will not be having any value after one year working in swing technology.

Anyways I have started the work with positive attitude and I will do the great work in this project.

Afterall work is work.
vijay jamadade
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I was also waiting for Jeannie's thoughts
Sagar Rohankar
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vijay jamadade wrote:but i fear that my web technology experience will not be having any value after one year working in swing technology.

Well thats solely depends upon you. You can, any time, start working on some web project OR keep your web skill upto date by reading, practising, etc.

And lastly I have 2 years of Java web development experience and from last 6 - 8 months I'm working on Swing and Applet
Jeanne Boyarsky
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vijay jamadade wrote:I was also waiting for Jeannie's thoughts

Who is that?

vijay jamadade wrote:Maneesh you are right. but i fear that my web technology experience will not be having any value after one year working in swing technology.

It doesn't work that way. You keep reading about web technology even if you aren't using it in your day job. Having exposure to many things is good. If your goal is to be a architect or manager one day, having done more than one thing is helpful.


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vijay jamadade
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Thanks Jeannie. Yes I was refering to you in previous post.

I have changed my mindset now and looking the project as a good learning opportunity with interest in that. Now I think i will have job satisfaction too while doing my project work.

Thanks friends for changing my direction of looking towards an opportunity.

Thanks a lot to all...
Maneesh Godbole
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vijay jamadade wrote:Thanks Jeannie.

It should be Jeanne.
Deepak Bala
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Who is that?


It is a wonder how the spelling for your name is exhibited in so many incorrect ways

Either that or vijay has taken a liking to you and has given you a nick name ;)

There is a similar thread on java + .NET vijay. You might want to look at that also
Maneesh Godbole
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Deepak Bala wrote:
Either that or vijay has taken a liking to you and has given you a nick name ;)

Else he is a fan of Jeannie
vijay jamadade
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Else he is a fan of Jeannie


Maneesh I am fan of Jeannie's solutions.

Her solutions has helped me a lot in other situations also.

And also you all's suggestions. Thanks to all.
Maneesh Godbole
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vijay jamadade wrote:
Maneesh I am fan of Jeannie's solutions.


Facepalm.
Sagar Rohankar
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Maneesh Godbole wrote:
vijay jamadade wrote:
Maneesh I am fan of Jeannie's solutions.
Facepalm.

Maneesh, you tried your best, but he loves the nick name given by him
Jeanne Boyarsky
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vijay jamadade wrote:
Else he is a fan of Jeannie


Maneesh I am fan of Jeannie's solutions.

And I would appreciate it if you would spell my name without the "i". I see "Jeannie" and think you are talking about someone else.
vijay jamadade
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Jeannie actually your name is too difficult to type.

i dont remember its spelling. May be next time even i will make the same mistake.

But this time i am right because i copied and pasted the name that you have written in your previous post.

Campbell Ritchie
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vijay jamadade wrote:Jeannie actually your name is too difficult to type.
No, it isn't.

But I agree that copy-and-paste is more reliable. Try highlighting the text and clicking the middle button as an alternative to copy-and-paste.
Sandeep Awasthi
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vijay jamadade wrote:Jeannie actually your name is too difficult to type.

i dont remember its spelling. May be next time even i will make the same mistake.

But this time i am right because i copied and pasted the name that you have written in your previous post.



Did you copy Jeanne or Jeannie ?


Sandeep
Campbell Ritchie
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I didn't copy anything.

Can we get this thread back to its original topic, please.
vijay jamadade
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Campbell, I think i have got the solution and I am going with project with interest.

Do you have anything more to share ??
Campbell Ritchie
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vijay jamadade wrote:Campbell, I think i have got the solution . . .
Well done
Deepak Bala
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In line with semi hijacked topic and relevant to jobs discussion, I just want to add that some people will neither find it funny nor amusing when you continually misspell their name after being told not to. I know of incidents where the receiver of an email was furious after some one misspelled their name the first time.
Pushkar Choudhary
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Deepak Bala wrote:some people will neither find it funny nor amusing when you continually misspell their name after being told not to.

"some" people? I'd say most of them, especially after you've been told not to misspell and been told what the correct spelling is.
Sandeep Awasthi
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Pushkar Choudhary wrote:
Deepak Bala wrote:some people will neither find it funny nor amusing when you continually misspell their name after being told not to.

"some" people? I'd say most of them, especially after you've been told not to misspell and been told what the correct spelling is.

I agree.
Just a clarification to to Jeanne. I did not mean to misspell. I seriously thought Vijay did same mistake again while copying. But I would still say sorry to Jeanne.
Campbell Ritchie
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Sandeep Awasthi wrote:But I would still say sorry to Jeanne.
Good for you
Jeanne Boyarsky
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It's not a big deal to point it out once. I point it out regularly because I like to be addressed by my identify. That said, I've told certain people my name is "Jeanne" and not "Jean" dozens of times!

I didn't post this yesterday because I was trying to respect Campbell nudging this to be about Swing again. Since it didn't go that way, I'm not changing the topic.
Sagar Rohankar
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:I point it out regularly because I like to be addressed by my identify. That said, I've told certain people my name is "Jeanne" and not "Jean" dozens of times!

Same thing here, the only difference is people don't misspell my name but unintentionally give me altogether different name.
Finally I have to put a note in the signature for the same.
 
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