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Hi,

Is Struts the most canonical Model 2 framework ?

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Canonical in what sense?

It's certainly been popular, particularly Struts 1. Personally I look to older Smalltalk GUI frameworks for canonical MVC implementations.
 
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Exactly that sense: like the old Smalltalk GUI frameworks....

So, Struts 1 and 2 are the most conformant to it ?

 
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And just how do you measure that? What metric should we use?
 
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Actually I have no metrics. I just picked up (and trusted) information on Brian's page. Does it procede?
 
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Well, without metrics, how can on say that one framework has more MVC-ness than another?

They're all just approximations anyways. True MVC, just isn't possible on the web. Model 2 is just a good approximation.
 
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Bear, I'm a newbie. Maybe you can tell me some metrics and some ranks on them (there must be a rank!)
 
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That's my point. There aren't any metrics that measure "MVC-ness". So trying to measure it, or to assign "rank" isn't really an exercise with a point.
 
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