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Hussein Baghdadi
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Hey,
I use MoinMoin as my personal and local wiki on my Mac.
Do you suggest another option (just curious)?
Thanks.
Ulf Dittmer
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If you're looking for a Java web app, check out JSPWiki.

For a desktop app, VoodooPad may be of interest; one of its features is the use of CamelCase words for linking to pages.


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Andrew Monkhouse
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I have MediaWiki installed on my Mac.


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Maybe, I am missing something, but why do you want a personal wiki on your machine???

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Andrew Monkhouse
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All the notes that I would previously have kept in either emails or in documents on my computer. Stuff that I do use from time to time.

Having them in the wiki means that I am not keeping them in my email system (most email systems have nasty rules about what they can do with your email after a certain amount of time), and I am not creating multiple standalone documents. Since the information is in a wiki I can cross-reference pages, add attachments etc. And it is, of course, very searchable.

Using something like MediaWiki makes sense for me since it is easy to backup, and I can easily replicate that backup on a different machine if I so desired.
Hussein Baghdadi
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As Andrew said.
Usually I keep notes, snippets of code, diagrams ... in a wiki for a centralized and fast access.
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Just a "me, too!" post -- what Andrew said.


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Hussein Baghdadi
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Any one using "Together" ?
http://reinventedsoftware.com/together/
Mark Spritzler
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I guess I should join the bandwagon. or is it Wikiwagon?

Mark
Daniel Siepmann
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Another nice Wiki is tiddlywiki. There are some Plugins you can search for.
A nice modified Version is MGSD


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David Newton
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I just run Confluence... and XWiki (used at work)... and will probably end up on http://mobilewikiserver.com/Welcome.html since (a) it's Smalltalk, and (b) it runs on Android. Now have to write mappers between everything :/
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Can I just bump this old conversation from last year up and ask if anyone here is still using the wiki software they said, and do they fear for the long term security of being 'addicted' to software that might not be supported for the next Mac upgrades?

Why, oh why don't Mac create software like this — something that sits nicely in iWorks or iLife?

I also just checked out media wiki, and it looks like far too much work.

In a perfect world I'd get something as easy as Voodoopad, it would be supported for all versions of Mac, no matter how long I kept my old mac, or how quickly I updated it! And it would not depend on the health of a one-man-band like Together or Voodoopad. (All right, a man and his wife as is the case with Voodoopad).

It would talk perfectly to iWorks and iLife and Microsoft office as well. It would be point and click to install, like a Mac app, and I would know that it would 'just work' and always be around.

I have a LOT of junk to commit to it.

I'm an anxious sort that worries I'm gonna get utterly hooked on Voodoopad or MoinMoin or something, and put ALL my stuff in it, and then turn around in a year or 2 when I've just got really used to it and find it's gone and no longer compatible with some new computer I buy in the future...
Andrew Monkhouse
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I'm still using MediaWiki.

I guess I set it up so long ago that I forgot that there were a few extra hoops on the Mac. I also have it installed on my Linux server, where it was almost a no-brainer to install.
David Gaffney
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Hi Andrew,
thanks for the answer.

What top things do you use mediawiki for? It seems a bit cumbersome to me ... not really drop and drag.

EG: I was hoping to write a kid's book and quickly link to various character names, place names, and have a wiki for each.

What if I change a character name? Does it automatically update all instances of that character name AND the links to that character name? EG: Imagine I were writing Harry Potter and had to change the name Ron Weasley. Does just changing the name of the link/page then change all instances of the name in the document?

I was hoping Voodoopad did this, but it does not seem to. You change the page name and all the other links to that name break.
David Gaffney
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Hi all,

I've found the ultimate wiki site called wiki matrix.

http://www.wikimatrix.org/wizard.php

It has a wizard which is asking me what I prefer. I want it to run on my G5 mac, but it doesn't seem to ask that, and instead asks what language I want it to be written in. I just want it to work on my Mac. Any ideas what I should tick?


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David Gaffney wrote:Can I just bump this old conversation from last year up and ask if anyone here is still using the wiki software they said, and do they fear for the long term security of being 'addicted' to software that might not be supported for the next Mac upgrades?

I'm still using the same wiki software for my personal needs (it's called Friki, and we use it here on this site for the JavaRanch FAQ). It's kind of bare bones, though, which is why I (still) recommend JSPWiki to others.

I'm an anxious sort that worries I'm gonna get utterly hooked on Voodoopad or MoinMoin or something, and put ALL my stuff in it, and then turn around in a year or 2 when I've just got really used to it and find it's gone and no longer compatible with some new computer I buy in the future...

MoinMoin, Friki, JSPWiki, MediaWiki and most others mentioned here are open source, so this kind of compatibility issue doesn't really arise, IMO. PHP and/or Java (on which they're based) are too much in the mainstream to go away any time soon, or not be supported for several OS X versions to come. That's more of a concern for native apps like VoodooPad.

What if I change a character name? Does it automatically update all instances of that character name AND the links to that character name?

I'm not aware of any Wiki that does that. That seems like a functionality specialized writer's tools might have, but not general purpose tools. I don't do a whole lot of writing, especially not anything as long as a book, but my gut feeling is that a Wiki may not be the best tool for such a project; have you considered using a word processor? For example, Mellel on OS X (which I use and like) bills itself as a "writer's" tool.

I want it to run on my G5 mac, but it doesn't seem to ask that, and instead asks what language I want it to be written in. I just want it to work on my Mac. Any ideas what I should tick?

If you restrict the search to PHP and Java you should still get a sizable selection. PHP runs via Apache httpd (both are pre-installed on OS X), and Java web apps run via a servlet container such as Tomcat (installation of which is straightforward).
David Gaffney
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For example, Mellel on OS X (which I use and like) bills itself as a "writer's" tool.


Ha ha, awesome! Of course I'm writing the actual novel in Word, but it's all the encyclopedia stuff I need to jump around in, you know, imagine keeping track of all those characters and races in Lord of the Rings.

I have a nice big monitor. I keep the novel on one side of the screen as I write, and my encyclopedia files on the other. It's just trying to have all my encyclopedia stuff in one Word file gets a bit slow.

The right sort of wiki, if it was drop and drag enough, would help me tidy up my political and greenie activistim and thoughts, my church stuff, man life gets busy and swamped with info! So it's not just for my writing.

But I keep feeling that there's something in the raw Mac OS I'm not using as well either. Folders seem to take too long to jump around and scan through... I'll have to have a think. Thanks for your support.

Hey Ulf, what about you run through the wiki matrix and tick all your requirements and run a few comparisons? You might find one that meets your needs better! I'm keen on hearing what other people find when they run through the Matrix Choices Wizard.
http://www.wikimatrix.org/wizard.php
Ulf Dittmer
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what about you run through the wiki matrix and tick all your requirements and run a few comparisons? You might find one that meets your needs better! I'm keen on hearing what other people find when they run through the Matrix Choices Wizard.

I've done that at some point in the past, but I've long ago settled on 3 wikis: Friki (for my personal use; it's small enough that I know its entire code base and can bend it to my will), JSPWiki for medium-complexity requirements, and XWiki for high-end requirements. They're all written in Java, since that's the main focus of my work.
 
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