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Gonna take my exam next week

Relja Damnjanovic

Joined: Feb 19, 2010
Posts: 6

...and I'm very nervous

I've been studying for about two months using K&B guide book and some test simulators (Whizlabs, LearnKey). I have few questions:

1) on some simulators I found questions that shouldn't be on the exam (according to K&B book), for example, questions regarding ConcurrentHashMap class and object. Who am I to trust about that? Should I skip those questions while practicing?

2) considering questions on the exam: In book it is stated that you must answer 47/72 to pass, but on the Sun's website it says 35/60. I hope Sun's information is correct, since it is easier to pass then

3) if it's multiple choice question, is it stated in question how much answers we must choose?

4) how many (approximately) d&d is usually on the exam, and, if anyone who took the exam can tell me, by his personal opinion, are those questions easier or harder than the regular ones?

5) I don't know very well some of the important classes' API that will be on the exam (for example, Scanner, Date and Number Format classes...), simply, because I've almost never used them in programming. Most of the questions about them I can answer correctly, because I understand what each method does, but some trick questions I can't catch (for example, once I answered incorrect because I didn't recognize that "put" is the method for adding elements to Maps, you can't use "add"). How important is to know all the classes' API by heart before taking the exam?

SCJP done, SCWCD on the way!
Neha Daga
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Joined: Oct 30, 2009
Posts: 504
1. Yes, you can leave those questions.
2. Exam has 60 questions and you have to get 35 correct.
3.yes, it will prompt you on how many answers to choose.
4, You cant say how many d&d questions will be on exam but they are really easy.
5. Yes, you should have a sound knowledge of all API's.

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Devaka Cooray
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Joined: Jul 29, 2008
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Also have a look at our ScjpFaq

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Kamil Wojcik
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Joined: May 19, 2008
Posts: 78

Also good thing is to reread before exam "Two-minute drill" from K&B, it's really helpful.

SCJP 6.0 Passed | SCWCD Passed | PSM in progress...
Abhishek Sawant

Joined: Feb 21, 2010
Posts: 13
Apart from all above suggestions, what you need is to stay calm.
Be positive. Always remind yourself that you are going to clear exam in the first attempt itself.
Don't be nervous at all. You have done studies, so it won't be a difficult task for you.

All the best.
Relja Damnjanovic

Joined: Feb 19, 2010
Posts: 6

Thank you for answers I haven't still taken the exam because I'm waiting for the vouchers to arrive by mail (they're already ordered). It should be any day now.

In the meantime, I've been doing the Learnkey exam simulator, which came on the CD with K&B book, and I think I found an error in one question. Here's the thing:

Which of the following will fullfill the equals() and hashCode() contracts for this class? (Choose all that apply)
a) return ((SortOff)o).bal == this. bal;
b) return ((SortOff)o).code.length() == this. code.length();
c) return ((SortOff)o).code.length()*((SortOff)o).bal == this. code.length()*this.bal
d) return ((SortOff)o).code.length()*((SortOff)o).bal*((SortOff)o).rate == this.code.length()*this.bal*this.rate

C is one correct answer, I agree with that. But in the solutions it is stated that D is also a correct answer, and I disagree. For example, suppose we have two objects, and values o1.code.length=4, o1.bal=5, o2.code.length=5, o2.bal=6, and values for the rates are o1.rate=6, and o2.rate=4. So, in that case, the o1.hashCode would be 4*5=20, and o2.hashCode=5*6=30. But o1.equals(o2) would return 4*5*6==5*6*4 which is true. So we have equal objects with non-equal hashCodes, which is not good.

Am I right?
The question is number 52 in the Quiz A of the test simulator I mentioned above.

Rajeev Trikha
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Joined: Jan 29, 2010
Posts: 85
Although this should all be in a different topic but I think you are right. I created the following code which clearly shows that there are two objects inserted in the set though they are equal.

However, the bigger point is that the variables used in calculating the hashcode must at least be used in the equal, which this program is clearly doing with option IV. The object has been given meaningful equivalence, but what you have unearthed is that our hashing algorithm is poor.

Rajeev Trikha (SCJP 6)
Relja Damnjanovic

Joined: Feb 19, 2010
Posts: 6

Passed - 93% !!!

Thanks everyone for the help and advices! Btw, this ranch is great place, and I will try to be more regular visitor here and try to help other test-takers.
Jan Cumps

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Posts: 2565

Congratulations, Relja

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Rajeev Trikha
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Joined: Jan 29, 2010
Posts: 85
Well done, Relja!
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